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Re: What mobile operating system do you use?

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:02 pm
by capivara
No votes for Windows? :roll:

I use both Android, and a $50, old-style Nokia slide phone. Up to 35 days standby time, now that's something no smartphone can offer me (yet).

Hans

Re: What mobile operating system do you use?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:40 am
by Linus MacWinfrey
colyn wrote:I use the iPhone in part due to the security issues with Android.
Googles app store is so malware infested I had to dump my Android in favor of iPhone..
In addition you have to root the phone to use the most up to date OS.. My Android was always 3-4 updates behind..my iPhone is up to date with the very latest IOS and is malware free..

My iMessages from my iPhone5 to my son's iPhone 5s were somehow delivered to his one friend's iPhone 5s. Apple's updates are such bad quality, it breaks what had worked prior to updating, so never update before at least version x.5 is proven in practice.

I do not trust Android and I never will, yet it works better than my iPhone did. I sold the iPhone 5 and bought a cheap Chinese Androidish thing that works wayy better than the rotten apple anyhow. Apple had two major security flaws uncovered over the past year alone, so is it really worth the extra money?

Blackberry's OS is the most secure but their hardware suck.

Re: What mobile operating system do you use?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:03 am
by Linus MacWinfrey
TheWebaholic wrote:
Yes, I know what you mean about late Android updates.

I've never had a problem with malware in the Google Play store though, and I've been using Android for nearly 3 years now. I have an antivirus app installed (just in case) and I also ensure I only download apps which have good ratings from existing users.

I've heard of Replicant, but I don't know much about it. Does it allow access to the Google Play Store?
There is more to Android security risk than late updates. It has thousands of malware that could infect your device and running an anti-malware app is no insurance. I am using Malwarebytes but doubt that it will be bale to do any good. Every app runs in its own VM, afaik, and these are very tight. So, how does Malwarebytes get into that VM to scan, for instance, Maildroid or Firefox?

As for anything Apple: the past year alone proved that Apple is not even remotely as secure as WP8 which, in turn, lags far behind BBOS. http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/09/blackb ... -incident/ I am using Android as an interim arrangement after I ditched the Apple ecosystem for reasons of security and relevance. Apple updates were worse than any virus I have ever seen and, as they cripple one's user experience and critical functionalities, I decided to jump ship and make landfall at Android for now. A firewall is also running, but I only downloaded a few much needed productivity apps and I will not install funware, nor do I install from sources other than Playstore.

Re: What mobile operating system do you use?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:25 pm
by RacerBG
Omega Tablet PC with Android 4.0
Sony Xperia E with Android 4.1

The old GSM's are not counting... :D

Re: What mobile operating system do you use?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:36 pm
by DrHu
I pick Android, but I pay attention to Blackberry
Apple and windows: not so much
--I don't find Google any more onerous than either Apple or Microsoft

I think it should/will depend on the vendor support; what Microsoft used to call the windows DNA
--I might be mistaken on their terminolgies, basically I don't even try to keep up.

So, in order of likelyhood
Android
Windows
Blackberry | IOS
  • Blackberry has a good security concept and is improving with the latest mobile(smart)phone releases
--I think Apple IOS won't be more populr than Blackberry in that regard, but you never know; we await their next product release with baited breath (IPhone 6x)

Also Tablets give an idea of OS popularity
http://mobilephones.xal.me/Best-Selling-Tablets.html
--for phones, same web page, it looks like Andoid OS is the winner

I tend to think Android
--part of the reason is the Google environment and the multitude of devices connecting to them (google + etc..); and the lower cost of Android devices: smartphones or otherwise
  • If a hybrid/mobile OS, like Android, or Microsoft win8x works for you, you probably go with the OS that includes your mobile phone..
    --although I understand that Android scales more than the others (lowest value to highest value device/system..

Re: What mobile operating system do you use?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:37 pm
by konjad
Android 2.3. I'll probably stick with it for a few more years too.

Re: What mobile operating system do you use?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:28 pm
by colyn
Linus MacWinfrey wrote:Apple updates were worse than any virus I have ever seen and, as they cripple one's user experience and critical functionalities,
How so?

I've not had any problems/issues with any updates. Could you give some examples?

Re: What mobile operating system do you use?

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:20 am
by Linus MacWinfrey
colyn wrote:
Linus MacWinfrey wrote:Apple updates were worse than any virus I have ever seen and, as they cripple one's user experience and critical functionalities,
How so?

I've not had any problems/issues with any updates. Could you give some examples?
First, local usb sync was broken from iOS6 to 7,
Then wireless sync was broken.
Same happened in iTunes. Apple support forums attracted 245 pages of rants from irate users.
On iPhone 5, wifi was broken after update
We were forced into iCloud. Given that only 2/7 of global population have internet, much less with broadband, cloud is a stupid impractical idea now, will be more useful by 2025.
iCloud corrupted notes, contacts and calendars.
Sensitive iMessages were relayed to a third party, not by user, but software bug! So much for security.

Solution? Use Google! Why did we have Apple? To avoid using Google!

Re: What mobile operating system do you use?

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:23 am
by Linus MacWinfrey
DrHu wrote:I pick Android, but I pay attention to Blackberry
Apple and windows: not so much
--I don't find Google any more onerous than either Apple or Microsoft

I think it should/will depend on the vendor support; what Microsoft used to call the windows DNA
--I might be mistaken on their terminolgies, basically I don't even try to keep up.

So, in order of likelyhood
Android
Windows
Blackberry | IOS
  • Blackberry has a good security concept and is improving with the latest mobile(smart)phone releases
--I think Apple IOS won't be more populr than Blackberry in that regard, but you never know; we await their next product release with baited breath (IPhone 6x)

Also Tablets give an idea of OS popularity
http://mobilephones.xal.me/Best-Selling-Tablets.html
--for phones, same web page, it looks like Andoid OS is the winner

I tend to think Android
--part of the reason is the Google environment and the multitude of devices connecting to them (google + etc..); and the lower cost of Android devices: smartphones or otherwise
  • If a hybrid/mobile OS, like Android, or Microsoft win8x works for you, you probably go with the OS that includes your mobile phone..
    --although I understand that Android scales more than the others (lowest value to highest value device/system..
Is it good to follow the herd? Using something because it is popular is the wrong approach. Do proper research and use what is best. As far as security goes, BBOS is light years ahead of the rest, with WP8.1 in second place. Apple and Android are not even close, with Android being a major security risk.

Re: What mobile operating system do you use?

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:38 am
by ClutchDisc
Hmmm... my phone type isn't on the poll list. I guess I can't vote. My phone is running a Java based OS. It's technically not a smart phone, but I can do most of the things you can do on a smart phone with it.

Re: What mobile operating system do you use?

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:24 pm
by colyn
Linus MacWinfrey wrote: First, local usb sync was broken from iOS6 to 7,
Then wireless sync was broken.
Same happened in iTunes. Apple support forums attracted 245 pages of rants from irate users.
On iPhone 5, wifi was broken after update
All have worked fine on my end without issues... I have done several updates from the original IOS 7 to the current version on my 5S and everything worked as it/they should even after the update..

Rants don't solve issues since they don't explain what the problem is. If there really is an issue the person should make contact with the techs and explain in detail what the issue is.. When I have an issue whether it be internet connection or whatever I contact the proper tech and explain just what the problem is and in short order the problem is fixed..
Linus MacWinfrey wrote:We were forced into iCloud. Given that only 2/7 of global population have internet, much less with broadband, cloud is a stupid impractical idea now, will be more useful by 2025.
Nobody has been forced into the cloud. If you want to use a different cloud or none at all it is your free choice... I prefer redundant backup on and off my site so there is little to no chance of losing data.. and yes I do use cloud for some of my backup..
Linus MacWinfrey wrote:iCloud corrupted notes, contacts and calendars.
Sensitive iMessages were relayed to a third party, not by user, but software bug! So much for security.
Again...not on my end. Haven't had a single issue..

As for imessages being relayed to third parties...the same thing happens in Google as well as your personal email and everything you do online so Apple can't be blamed alone for this.. Every keystroke you do is recorded by someone whether it be the NSA or even your provider..
Linus MacWinfrey wrote:Solution? Use Google! Why did we have Apple? To avoid using Google!
I have no problems with Google per-say except for the lack of security in the Google Play store.. I used Android for several years and it worked just as good as my iPhone..

Re: What mobile operating system do you use?

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:45 am
by Linus MacWinfrey
You only see things from your prepsective and ignore the bigger picture. Good for you that you have aa 5S and not a 5. The five was promptly discontinued.

Ranting ia ALL people can do when Apple is not even approachable, surely not listening to users.

Before you proclaim the virtues of Apple, from the experience of a singular user, go do some research on Apple forums, also Macroumours, etc. Your post only said how lucky you are but your good experience is irrelevant to thousands upon thousands of people around the globe. Seeing things only your way shows that you are not thinking of others and therefore maybe a bit self-centered?

Google had critical security breaches in the past, something that could place business professionals at great risk. Imagine the doctor of a famous celeb has his patient's contact and banking formation stored on his phone, as many are doing. If someone hacks into that data, usually by means of malware attacks coming from APPROVED apps as had happened in the past, much damage can be done and expensive litigation may follow.

There is a good reason why professionals do not want to use cloud services, but prefer local sync solutions. What is wrong with having your data stored on your own systems? Why should I trust someone unknown to me, halfway aound the globe, with my clients' information? In my working life, I was a financial planner and tax consultant. My associate was a lawyer. Both of us would have been ta great risk of data was compromised.

We cannot always just think of our own perspectives, but we have to consider the various risks and contingencies that could affect us and those who trust us with their lives.

There is a reason why the mighty USA does not allow their President the use of any other phone than a Blackberry. Not even the Fort Knox version of Android and also no Apple is deemed secure enough. Different people have different needs and also may experience things differently. My cheap Chinese junk phone works much better than my friggen iPhone ever did, yet Australians have terrible experiences of the very same model. It is because of their demographics and irregular signal distribution. What works in Cupertino may fail in Cairo.

The USA can fit into Africa three times over, yet 300 million people dictate to 6,3 billion others how they should live and communicate. A minority oppressing the majority in a certain way, you may argue, or at the very least one can say that the makers of the systems we aall need to use, do as you are doing: only see it from their perspective and ignoring the needs of the majorities elsewehere.

Re: What mobile operating system do you use?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:54 pm
by colyn
After watching the news about the iPhone 6 today I am a bit disappointed with its specs.. I really expected more from it... It is a nice looking phone and I will in all probability upgrade but I am going to wait and see if an updated version will come out..

I am more interested in IOS8 right now..