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2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by /dev/urandom » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:22 am

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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by niowluka » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:38 am

Errmm... enjoy ?!

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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by killer de bug » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:38 pm

It's like 201*: the year of Linux as a desktop system? :P
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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by dXTC » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:06 pm

If OpenBSD's developers would like to make the OS more popular, they may want to rethink the logo graphic on the project's main website.

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Let's be honest here. That looks like some sort of indie horror game splash screen. I want my computer to greet me with a desktop, not a jumpscare.
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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by Derek_S » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:12 am

Hello /dev/random - If OpenBSD is the end-all, do-all, ultimate BSD-based operating system, why is it currently ranked #89 on distrowatch.com's top 100 list? And why are there four other BSD-based distro's ahead of it on the list?

#19 - FreeBSD
#35 - PC-BSD
#55 - Ghost BSD
#62 - DragonFly BSD

Don't take this the wrong way, I don't mean to be openly critical of OpenBSD itself since I've never tried it. It could very well be a great operating system. I'm just wondering why the other four range from being just a little more popular to much more popular than OpenBSD.
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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by /dev/urandom » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:36 am

Derek_S wrote:If OpenBSD is the end-all, do-all, ultimate BSD-based operating system, why is it currently ranked #89 on distrowatch.com's top 100 list?
If Linux is the end-all, do-all, ultimate desktop system, why does it only have 1.9 % market share on the desktop?
Numbers don't matter that much.

OpenBSD is less popular than the FreeBSD "family" - FreeBSD, its forks, its distributions - because there is less software available in its repositories and it has a rather conservative approach to usability. You'll need to read a lot before you can do a thing. People are lazy. Admittedly, my servers run FreeBSD because of its great package management, even though OpenBSD would probably be even more secure.

FreeBSD is the "linuxiest" of the major BSDs. OpenBSD has a rather Unix-like look & feel (default desktop, anyone?). Not everyone likes that, regardless of the fact that you can choose your desktop environment freely after you've set up everything.

About the logo graphics: It's a joke. A good one though. :)
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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by jsalpha2 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:02 am

Mint (Regular Edition)...Mint (Debian Edition)...Mint (BSD Edition?) I'd try it then.

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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by Derek_S » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:08 am

Hello /dev/random - I just came across an interesting factoid for you - OpenBSD was first introduced in 1995, the very same year that Microsoft introduced Windows 95.
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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by MartyMint » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:07 am

/dev/urandom wrote:You'll need to read a lot before you can do a thing. People are lazy.
Oh. Okay.

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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by killer de bug » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:09 am

/dev/urandom wrote:You'll need to read a lot before you can do a thing.
Then 2015 is definitely not the year of OpenBSD as a desktop :lol:
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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by niowluka » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:22 am

Derek_S wrote:If OpenBSD is the end-all, do-all, ultimate BSD-based operating system, why is it currently ranked #89 on distrowatch.com's top 100 list?
Since when is popularity a measure of quality ? In any walk of life ?
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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by /dev/urandom » Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:08 am

Derek_S wrote:OpenBSD was first introduced in 1995, the very same year that Microsoft introduced Windows 95.
Depends. Windows 95 had its first (?) preview versions in 1994. OpenBSD roots in the 70s. :)
killer de bug wrote:Then 2015 is definitely not the year of OpenBSD as a desktop :lol:
Why? Linux distributions which force you to read the manuals (Arch, Gentoo, Slackware) are becoming more popular too.
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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by killer de bug » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:10 pm

/dev/urandom wrote:Why? Linux distributions which force you to read the manuals (Arch, Gentoo, Slackware) are becoming more popular too.
The idea of 'the year of OpenBSD Desktop' means, for me, that you can install it and use it easily and thus that it will easily spread.

This is obviously not the case.
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Post by /dev/urandom » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:39 pm

It "just works" - if the OOTB experience is fine for you (screenshot above). If it's not, you'll have to edit config files :)
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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by RacerBG » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:43 pm

The year of OpenBSD - I agree, on the desktop - excuse me? In times when people are fanatic about security - OpenBSD can give popularity but on the desktop side is not the same. To be successful on the desktop - OpenBSD must be easy to understand and use OS. People are lazy? You are right here. Arch, Gentoo and Slackware by the way are easy to install distros, you just need to READ. And I believe everyone +7 years old here can read. :wink: Lazyness to do it is another topic.
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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by MartyMint » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:00 pm

/dev/urandom wrote:...(Arch, Gentoo, Slackware) are becoming more popular too.
If you consider spins like Antergos and Manjaro, then...sure.

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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by /dev/urandom » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:06 am

RacerBG wrote:OpenBSD must be easy to understand and use OS.
Have you tried it?
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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by RacerBG » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:56 am

/dev/urandom wrote:
RacerBG wrote:OpenBSD must be easy to understand and use OS.
Have you tried it?
I consider this. :) Yesterday I had a look at the OpenBSD FAQ and really the install process is not complicated but the Windows converts will say that they want a GUI. That's their problem.
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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by /dev/urandom » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:03 am

OpenBSD installs (and starts) a GUI by default if you confirm the particular two questions during the installation. :)

(It's cwm though, nothing GNOME'y, but changing your default window manager shouldn't be a knockout issue - it works the same way as it does on Linux.)
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Re: 2015: The Year of the OpenBSD Desktop

Post by deleted » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:40 am

The biggest problem I have with many *bsd flavors (and the *too linux flavors) is compiling from source. Sure with fast processors and fast disks (and good make files) it's not that hard, but the question is "why"? Especially when Debian boasts "it comes with over 37500 packages, precompiled software bundled up in a nice format for easy installation on your machine." so there are little no dependencies to sort out.
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