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gov't surveilance v AV companies

Post by mike acker » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:50 pm

Interesting read on The Intercept today Popular Security Software Came Under Relentless NSA and GCHQ Attacks

this is interesting as the article notes AV software has been exploited by attackers who seek to make advantage of the high level of privilege assigned to such software

...of course if you don't need an AV product then you aren't running one, -- or paying for one, either
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Re: gov't surveilance v AV companies

Post by Pjotr » Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:58 pm

mike acker wrote:Interesting read on The Intercept today Popular Security Software Came Under Relentless NSA and GCHQ Attacks

this is interesting as the article notes AV software has been exploited by attackers who seek to make advantage of the high level of privilege assigned to such software

...of course if you don't need an AV product then you aren't running one, -- or paying for one, either
An extra reason to be happy that we don't need this sad AV stuff at all in Linux.... And an extra reason not to install it anyway, "just because it feels so good to have it".
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Re: gov't surveilance v AV companies

Post by Cosmo. » Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:57 pm

I described this 1 month ago and concluded:
Cosmo. wrote:Result: The fact, that AV is unnecessary for Linux is itself a huge security advantage.
In this post I described, that McAfee uses their tool Stinger to collect user data.
Next new one: Avast sends user data to the marketing analytics company Jumpshot (and most likely to others too). Not here and than but 150 billion visited URL each month!

I conclude now:
The said advantage gets bigger and bigger day by day.

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Re: gov't surveilance v AV companies

Post by DrHu » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:42 pm

And you should expect government surveillance agents (NSA or otherwise) to seek out opportunities to surveil users of all types.
--that's the problem with trawling, it catches the good fish (in their mind/opinion) and adds in the rest (all the other fish)
  • Next its has to be analyzed for patterns of value
    --that seems never to have worked..so far
Again Linux OS is lucky/or smart we aren't as completely plugged into the commercial space; where we might expect this kind of spying to occur..
  • What governments say in defense is that Well Google et all collect so much more direct data and know more about you than we ever would via META data collections..
--you do know that if you have a cell phone: the agency you subscribed to collects much data, even without letting you know they are doing so, and without your permission
  • In order to use that valuable shopping or interest data to profit via their advertisers..

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Re: gov't surveilance v AV companies

Post by mike acker » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:40 pm

another good essay, also on The Intercept, today:

Controversial GCHQ Unit Engaged in Domestic Law Enforcement, Online Propaganda, Psychology Research

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Throughout this report, JTRIG’s heavy reliance on its use of behavioral science research (such as psychology) is emphasized as critical to its operations. That includes detailed discussions of how to foster “obedience” and “conformity”:
From No Place to Hide (Glenn Greenwald) ( regarding Snowden event )
"No matter the specific techniques involved, historically mass surveillance has had several constant attributes. Initially, it is always the country's dissidents and marginalized who bear the brunt of surveillance, leading those who support the government or are merely apathetic to mistakenly believe they are immune. And history shows that the mere existance of a mass surveillance apparatus, regardless of how it is used, is in itself sufficient to stifle dissent. A citizenry that is aware of always being watched quickly becomes a compliant and fearful one."
NO PLACE TO HIDE Glenn Greenwald, p.3
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