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Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:02 pm
by lexon

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:12 pm
by exploder
It would be nice to see flash die off. HTML5 does the same thing and without all the problems. Even Google Chrome uses it if it's available rather than pepper flash.

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:21 pm
by mrdachshund86
Good riddance. Unfortunately, it is only disabled, not gone from my computer since there are still some sites that didn't get the memo that Flash needs to go (looking at you BBC :roll: ).

As an added bonus, when Flash dies, it takes all those stupid, annoying, flashy ads with it. :mrgreen:

RIP Flash.

mrdachshund86

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:48 pm
by BigEasy
I always like users who knew about their soft behavors not from own computer but at least from CNN. Ever tryed to run FF before reading CNN?
I found FF behavor much more virus like than all Flash vulnerabilities. What the hell Mozilla doing in MY computer allowing or disalowing some funcionality remotely?

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:25 pm
by Habitual
BigEasy wrote:What the hell Mozilla doing in MY computer allowing or disalowing some funcionality remotely?
That's the real issue, In my book.

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:41 pm
by Cosmo.
BigEasy wrote:[I found FF behavor much more virus like than all Flash vulnerabilities.
Securing against a critical security hole is a virus like behavior? Strange. And how is the name for the behavior of Adobe, who already provided fixes for other platforms (and most likely also for Chrome under Linux), but not for the NPAPI-plugin (needed for firefox in Linux)? How would user call firefox, if they would get affected by the issue, because ff did not disable the known as vulnerable plugin? Accomplice?

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:32 pm
by karlchen
Oh my god, what a disgrace! Mozilla blocks a known vulnerable Flash plugin. You have to consent in order to launch it nonetheless. How dare they!
Honestly, those that complain about the warning which Firefox displays cannot be serious really.
Not warning the user against launching a known vulnerable Flash plugin version would be pretty irresponsible.
And in the end you are free to consent and shoot your own foot. So kindly stop whining.

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:47 pm
by xenopeek
The issues is that all current Adobe Flash versions, regardless of web browser and operating system, have critical security vulnerabilities as exposed by the documents taken from the spyware development company "Hacking Team". These security vulnerabilities are currently being actively exploited by malware creators. Hence the severe step by Firefox to block all Adobe Flash content.

I've made a public announcement about it and what you can do for other browsers: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 3&t=200210

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:26 pm
by Habitual
I vote that gets closed and stickied.

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:32 pm
by xenopeek
It's a global announcement; displayed at the top of each forum in the announcements block. I considered locking it, but it might be good to have a place for users that find out about it this way to immediately ask additional questions.

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:06 pm
by Habitual
Global is good.
Thanks.

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:10 am
by karlchen
The Windows patch and the Chrome/Chromium patch are available, in fact, have been since yesterday.
No patch so far for the NPAPI based plugin, however, used by the Mozilla products by default.
Cf. Adobe Flash Player
And remember: the time after a new Flash player release is always just the time before the next 0-day-exploit. :wink:

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:01 am
by Drygar
karlchen wrote:And remember: the time after a new Flash player release is always just the time before the next 0-day-exploit. :wink:
+1

If Adobe decides to do something good to the Internet community and if they want to prove they care about their customers/users, they should immediately stop developing it, remove it from any servers and co-work with Microsoft, Mozilla, Google (Chromium authors) to define strict deadline when browsers stop the plugin from existing. Believe it or not, all developers will turn to HTML5 immediately.
Such a vulnerable software for some many years ... :shock:

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:49 am
by xenopeek
I'm surprised how many websites have blocked flash content, where I didn't think they would need flash at all (news sites and such). I haven't found a website yet that didn't work without flash though. I might leave it off :wink:

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:33 am
by Pierre
It is very easy to block Flash.
- Change "extensions.blocklist.enabled" in "about:config" - to False.
Got tired of clicking on it to activate.

- now it won't work at all.
and don't miss it - at all.

Yeah - that also stops FF from AutoBlocking any out-of-date plug-ins.
so - you have to manually check them. ..

- Tools - Add-ons -- click the link at the top "Check to see if your plug-ins are up to date".

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:08 am
by Crewp
Drygar wrote:
If Adobe decides to do something good to the Internet community and if they want to prove they care about their customers/users, they should immediately stop developing it, remove it from any servers and co-work with Microsoft, Mozilla, Google (Chromium authors) to define strict deadline when browsers stop the plugin from existing. Believe it or not, all developers will turn to HTML5 immediately.
Such a vulnerable software for some many years ... :shock:

They have already patched it, but I don't think a few band aids are going to stop it from it's bad press, and the momentum for a move to HTML5. That said, If Adobe keeps it going doesn't mean we have to use it. Mine is now disabled on all PC's and will remain that way.

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:11 am
by exploder
I read this morning that System 76 has joined Mozilla in banning Adobe Flash from it's products. If more high profile organizations follow suit more sites would move to HTML5.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/system76 ... 6924.shtml

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:17 am
by xenopeek
I've just removed Flash plugin from my system. I only have it installed now as part of Google Chrome (where it is disabled) and in Steam. Firefox, Epiphany, and Chromium are all Flash free. I've been testing the websites I need all afternoon and so far so good :)

However, now I stumble and need some thoughts. I have one banking website I need to use, and that requires Flash. Are there any alternatives besides the Flash plugin people have found to work well enough? It's been a while since I looked at Shumway (IIRC, that was a Flash alternative implementation for Firefox?). Else I'll just enable Flash in Google Chrome for those occasions that I need to access this website.

Any thoughts on Steam and Flash?

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:33 am
by exploder
Google Chrome with pepper flash is your best bet as far as the banking site goes. There is no question that the patches will arrive quickly in Chrome.

Re: Firefox blocks Flash

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:40 am
by Pierre
as well as the pepper flash plugin - some are trying the fresh player plugin