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Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:14 pm
by Tar_Ni
HI,

I am on the hunt for a new (free) email provider and currently have narrowed it down to these two. Both seems very good, but I need more perspectives.

Should I relinquish MS products because I switched to Linux? Is Gmail scanning all my emails?

These are some questions I wonder.

In the end, which one is 'better'?

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:28 pm
by Cosmo.
I don't know which one of both is better. Gmail is known to scan your mails. But to be honest; which of the free mail-providers does not? Does Outlook.com look better if you read this?

In short: I don't use any free (free as freedom to steal my personal data) provider.

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:36 pm
by Crewp
I use Gmail and run it through Thunderbird with no issue's. But like Cosmo said, they all probably scan email.

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:55 pm
by mike acker
nope

I use CoreComm Services

the cost is minimal ( 15 bucks a quarter ) and per their policy they do not monitor your activity. you get your own domain and a pile of eMail addresses

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:28 pm
by MintBean
I had outlook and had to dump it. There was no way to change the spam settings without some kind of Outlook server or something IIRC- basically it would block emails from certain friends even though I flagged them as friends. The only way to read these blocked emails was to log into the outlook site- they weren't available in Thunderbird. Also, Outlook is flaky with non MS Outlook mail clients. It's a known issue that MS seems unwilling to resolve.

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:09 pm
by jimallyn
I always thought that "Outlook" was a slight misnomer. They just got the two syllables backwards. It should be "Look Out!"

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:51 pm
by Pierre
if you do use Outlook.com then that can be accessed via Thunderbird, quite easily.

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:28 pm
by Tar_Ni
But why are Linux users are so reluctant to use Outlook?

I have been using it for 2 days now and I must admit it is superior to my former email provider (Yandex).

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:12 pm
by Crewp
jimallyn wrote:I always thought that "Outlook" was a slight misnomer. They just got the two syllables backwards. It should be "Look Out!"
That's funny :lol:

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:17 pm
by gto52
Zoho mail is free and claims not to scan emails.

I have been using it for about a month, interface similar to Outlook.

https://www.zoho.com/mail/

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:06 pm
by lexon
I would avoid Gmail. Only one reason. I got a Gmail account not long after it became available. I always delete messages and clear the trash.
About three years ago I bought a iPhone and set it up with Gmail. I found emails in trash that went back to when I first subscribed. That was a shocker. No idea how this happened. I have had a few PC's since I subscribed and always deleted everything. I also clear ALL Internet data a few times a day. Cookies, history, etc.

L

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:31 am
by Chiefahol
I just use gmail, anything i actually want to hide i create a one-time "burner" email address with fake details.

Note: 'Burner' email addresses MUST be used for only 1 thing. If you register multiple services to 1 burner account you are creating associations that could end up pointing back to you.

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:57 am
by Icarus149
I would never use Gmail or Outlook due to privacy reasons. People say these e-mail providers are free, but you pay with your data.

If you are concerned about privacy and willing to pay 1 EURO per month, I would recommend https://posteo.de/en or https://mailbox.org/en/, both are located in Germany.

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:48 am
by uberdorf
I've had outlook and gmail for many years. My problem with outlook was that at least a few years ago I couldn't get it to send messages from Thunderbird on Ubuntu. Maybe that has been fixed, but at that point I switched primarily to gmail and never looked back.

As for privacy, I figure that these corporations don't have the manpower to personally read every email. It is probably like the old snooping software that the government used on cell phones and the internet, where they look for specific words and phrases (I don't know how the current snooping software works). In the case of commercial use, these phrases and words are then used to target ads at someone. That is my educated guess, but I could be wrong I guess. So no person is probably reading your gmail or outlook emails unless you are promoting crime or terrorism. However, there is always the possibility of abuse by employees and like many of you I don't like the snooping by big corporations and the US government either because it has gone too far. I just personally don't think it is a big enough problem for me to spend my money on a private email that is safer from snooping, because I don't do anything against society.

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:14 am
by Cosmo.
uberdorf wrote:As for privacy, I figure that these corporations don't have the manpower to personally read every email.
This sounds, as if you did not take the time to read what I linked. On the other hand, if you want to provide your mails to somebody who states:
Gmail wrote:Our automated systems analyse your content (including emails)
(that means, there is no question, if they do) it is your decision. But the OP did ask regarding privacy.

Re: Outlook or Gmail?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:33 pm
by BenTrabetere
Tar_Ni wrote:But why are Linux users are so reluctant to use Outlook?

I have been using it for 2 days now and I must admit it is superior to my former email provider (Yandex).
I don't have any more an issue with Outlook than with the other "free" email services. I have email accounts with Outlook, Gmail, Yahoo!, and Comcast, my ISP. I am not overly sensitive to privacy, but I am aware that I am paying for these services with my personal information. Today I use them only enough to keep them active - I have idiot friends and family who refuse to update their contacts, and because I do not want someone else to be able to use an address I let lapse.

A personal issue with free email services borders on snobbery - a free email account doesn't look as professional or serious as one from a paid-for email provider. This, more than anything else, was the reason I started looking at the paid services.

Several months ago I opened an account at runbox.com. I found the prices to be reasonable (prices start at $19.95/year), and and the servers are located in Norway, where privacy is doubleplusgood (yeah, I know). It also allowed me to create up to 100 email aliases - an alias is much easier to create and manage than a throw-away address.