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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by tovian » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:36 am

coffee412 wrote:I dont want google, yahoo or any of those others handling my email .... I pull it all with thunderbird. I have some dummy gmail accounts for sites that demand an email address. I just give them my junk ones.
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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by Bolle1961 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:14 pm

Just installed Evolution. T-bird didn't work well with PGP/MIME lately. Evolution does the job. Besides that, Evolution don't need an extension to handle PGP keys.
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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by Allison » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:35 am

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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by mike acker » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:04 am

Bolle1961 wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:14 pm
Just installed Evolution. T-bird didn't work well with PGP/MIME lately. Evolution does the job. Besides that, Evolution don't need an extension to handle PGP keys.
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In my experience T-bird has trouble with pinentry. I finally gave up on their Enigmail plug-in.

Personally I love using CLAWS, especially for pgp-mail -- although Evolution works quite well with PGP/GPG.

CLAWS doesn't like html and I ain't so sure but what they're right. Trouble is though: if you enter a message using CLAWS/text -- it is formatted as LINUX text -- using LF as end of line. Some destination clients may not be able to handle text formatted using only the LF as End-of-Line. ****!

I should note though that CLAWS does have a plug-in that will display HTML formatted messages that are received.
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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by barddzen » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:50 pm

I am a Mac convert to Linux Mint and I also have multiple email addresses through my personal domain. I have my Mac (iCloud) email forwarded to my GMail account and my Microsoft (Outlook) email also forwarded to my GMail.

I have yet to find a client email app that lets me handle and set-as multiple email addresses like the GMail web application.

It's been more than 20 years since I tried Thunderbird.

Might give it a try and see if it's evolved much.

Do any of the other email clients do what I need? Maybe save me some trying multiple email clients?

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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by coffee412 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:30 am

I run 7 different email address thru thunderbird - gmail included. Im sure it should work for you.
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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by Portreve » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:29 am

I haven't used an email client in years in my computer. I'm strictly web mail-based. There's no migration, no maintenance, and no backing up required. It's nice to have long ago had that entire burden lifted from my shoulders.
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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by Moem » Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:48 am

Portreve wrote:
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I haven't used an email client in years in my computer. I'm strictly web mail-based. There's no migration, no maintenance, and no backing up required.
There's also no way to read your email when you're offline, so I'm guessing that is not a thing that happens in your world. :wink:
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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by HaveaMint » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:52 am

I don't remember when I switched to tbird or what version of windoze it was but have been using it for a long time.
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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by barddzen » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:38 am

coffee412 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:30 am
I run 7 different email address thru thunderbird - gmail included. Im sure it should work for you.
It's an odd circumstance. Before I moved to Linux, I used exclusively Mail.app, Apple's default desktop email client without any real thought about anything else. Earlier this year on our household standard Linux laptops, I've switched to GMail which is enrtirely web-based on the laptops, though does have a mobile app.

Google really does have IMO a very good set of apps between the GSuite and GMail I don't use much of anything else for these purposes.

If I used Thunderbird on the desktop, where is the mobile equivalent? Now I'm back to using GMail on mobile and Thunderbird on desktop, where the feature sets are very different. i.e. if I label a message on mobile I don't see it in Thunderbird.

I could go back to using iCloud for email, which has a feature set much more aligned with Thunderbird, but I can't "reply-as" using my personal domain on mobile without using my GMail account as a pass through.

I've downloaded Thunderbird, Hiri, and Evolution to try out on the desktop to see what shakes out. Maybe one will stick.

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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by Greencedar » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:52 pm

I prefer to use Thunderbird.
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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by Portreve » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:26 pm

Moem wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:48 am
There's also no way to read your email when you're offline, so I'm guessing that is not a thing that happens in your world. :wink:
I'm never offline. Well, not unless I go on vacation, and then I don't give a firetruck about email. :wink:
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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by coffee412 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:22 pm

barddzen wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:38 am
coffee412 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:30 am
I run 7 different email address thru thunderbird - gmail included. Im sure it should work for you.
It's an odd circumstance. Before I moved to Linux, I used exclusively Mail.app, Apple's default desktop email client without any real thought about anything else. Earlier this year on our household standard Linux laptops, I've switched to GMail which is enrtirely web-based on the laptops, though does have a mobile app.

Google really does have IMO a very good set of apps between the GSuite and GMail I don't use much of anything else for these purposes.

If I used Thunderbird on the desktop, where is the mobile equivalent? Now I'm back to using GMail on mobile and Thunderbird on desktop, where the feature sets are very different. i.e. if I label a message on mobile I don't see it in Thunderbird.

I could go back to using iCloud for email, which has a feature set much more aligned with Thunderbird, but I can't "reply-as" using my personal domain on mobile without using my GMail account as a pass through.

I've downloaded Thunderbird, Hiri, and Evolution to try out on the desktop to see what shakes out. Maybe one will stick.
To be honest, I really do not use my gmail account at all. I do have the mail forwarded to my business email address for support. Reason I do that is because I still have a slew of business cards with my gmail on them - lol.

I do not do a lot with my cell phone either. I have just a couple of apps on it for checking wifi signals and then just use the phone and messaging. I just do not care for something that I can not do what I want with it. Its a Galaxy S6. So, As for email on the cell phone I just dont do it. I just have my gmail account tied to it for updates and what not.

However, For a laptop or desktop I really do like Tbird. I think that it could use some improvement in the area of fonts and looks. There is a plugin for changing the fonts and size but that should be incorporated into tbird in my thinking. As for an app on the phone I couldnt really advise that.
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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by barddzen » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:46 pm

It's strange, maybe I've moved on from client email...

I've tried over the past few days to use TB and Evolution and just can't seem to get into the old groove of using a desktop client. I've been using web mail for several months and I'm not sure there is a way back.

Much of my interaction is via phone, my desktop and travel laptop. I'd have thought on the desktop/laptop a client would be more preferable but it's not really working out that way.

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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by coffee412 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:10 pm

barddzen wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:46 pm
It's strange, maybe I've moved on from client email...

I've tried over the past few days to use TB and Evolution and just can't seem to get into the old groove of using a desktop client. I've been using web mail for several months and I'm not sure there is a way back.

Much of my interaction is via phone, my desktop and travel laptop. I'd have thought on the desktop/laptop a client would be more preferable but it's not really working out that way.
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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by barddzen » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:11 pm

Yeah, that's a side issue that concerns me, but I don't really have a better way to use my own domain and forwarding unless I want to try and host all that myself.

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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by coffee412 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:47 pm

barddzen wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:11 pm
Yeah, that's a side issue that concerns me, but I don't really have a better way to use my own domain and forwarding unless I want to try and host all that myself.
Well, If you have your own domain then you can do what I did for 10 bucks a month (US). I got 5 email accounts under my own domain from rackspace.com . Its amazing the things you can do when you get setup like this. ;) . I dont know your money situation but I have found rackspace to really do a great job. I like having one as a "Throw away" email address that I use for places that want your email address or perhaps retailers and such. Then I can delete it later and just create another.

I like to divide my email accounts up to certain functions. Like replies from customers go to support@*** , Subscriptions to forums and such go to subscriptions@**** , I have a personal that I just use for close family and friends. One for my girl friend and then a couple of others. I have comcast cable and any nontrusted places get that email address (*@comcast.net) and I really never answer it.

Its a thought. Perhaps something for you to look into if you are inclined. :)
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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by barddzen » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:12 pm

That's pretty much what I do through GMail for free. As I said above, not really keen on Google reading all my stuff, so I'm researching options. I also run my domains through Google Domains, cheap and easy to setup and manage.

So from a "domain management" I would leave it there for now, but was looking to see if I could run through Apple's servers. I can receive emails via forwarding but can't reply using the custom domain. I'm also having major issues using app passwords trying to setup my iCloud connections. Email was straight forward, but Calendars I have to do each one separate with it's own app password per calendar.

Thunderbird was a bit more problematic getting things setup, Evolution has all the options, but I keep getting http errors and the calendars won't display properly email seems to be working in Evolution fine.

So what I'm gathering is if I really want "private" email it's primarily a paid service.

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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by coffee412 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:45 am

So what I'm gathering is if I really want "private" email it's primarily a paid service.
You are the product in a free environment.

There are costs involved when you put a value on your security and privacy. I use a paid VPN and paid Email service.
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Re: what mail client do you prefer

Post by Moem » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:38 am

barddzen wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:12 pm
what I'm gathering is if I really want "private" email it's primarily a paid service.
You can use a cheap host for email forwarting, so you can use your own domain. Any hosting service will offer this. There's really no reason to go with Google if privacy is a concern. For me, it would be, but I'm not you.
Then a free email provider that offers good privacy options. They exist; Protonmail is an example.
Finally, an email client of your choice, and Bob's your proverbial uncle, on the cheap.
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