Linus Torvalds: " Is Intel really planning on making this sh*t architectural?"

[Sir Charles]

Here is what Linus Torvalds thinks about the Intel fiasco:

Is Intel really planning on making this sh*t architectural? Has
anybody talked to them and told them they are f*cking insane?

... the whole hardware interface is literally mis-designed by morons.

... the patches are COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE.

WHAT THE F*CK IS GOING ON?

http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kern ... 04628.html

[tovian]

Another article:

Linus Torvalds declares Intel fix for Meltdown/Spectre ‘COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE’

he suggests: “Has anybody talked to them and told them they are f*cking insane?


I'm starting to think there is just the slimmest of possibilities that Mr. Torvalds doesn't think much of Intel's efforts !!

[Pjotr]

Just Linus being mildly displeased.

[karlchen]

Linus should be fair and pour his wrath equally upon Intel and AMD and ARM.
They all have not noticed for many years that their technical designs, meant to speed up processor work, could be misused to get access to data which should not be accessible.
And we endusers have been unaware of the sword of Damocles which has been dangling over our heads for years.

[Pepi]

Linus has a potty mouth

[Faust]

Fair comment I suppose ...

Linus should be fair and pour his wrath equally upon Intel and AMD and ARM.

But Intel is the major player on the scene , so they will naturally catch more of the splatter ( and it's the same story for MS ) .
More attention is focused on them , fairly or otherwise , simply for being the biggest player around .... that's just the way of the world .

...... could be misused to get access to data which should not be accessible......

That's the key word , right there .... " could ".
But so far it is fiction , and at it's best it is mere speculation .

[BigEasy]

Yet another victims of panic. Who next?
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/s ... s-updates/

[karlchen]

Hi, BigEasy.
Who are the victims of panic in this case? Those who have already installed the Bios update on their Dell machines, before Dell told them not to do so?
Regards,
Karl

[Sir Charles]

The important question for me is, if I am ever to trust those "morons" (Torvalds' wording) to design CPUs/machines with my security in mind rather than acting according to the cynical logic of "keeping shareholders happy", getting their fat bonuses at the end of the year. I was just one click away one day before Meltspectre hit the world to buy a brand new 8th generation "Intel Inside" machine. Today I am happy that I didn't. Will I ever trust the future Xth generation of the CPU's to have been designed in a way to guarantee my security? I don't Know. What I do know is that these gentle(wo)men deem my machine to be too cheap or too old for them to even consider to bother themselves about. That's cynical!

[tovian]

Will I ever trust... in a way to guarantee my security?

If you're looking for guarantees in this life somebody's gonna be kicking your butt every day.

Ya does th best ya can wid what ya find - and there ain't NO guarantees !!

[Sir Charles]

Will I ever trust... in a way to guarantee my security?

If you're looking for guarantees in this life somebody's gonna be kicking your butt every day.

Ya does th best ya can wid what ya find - and there ain't NO guarantees !!

Right! I realized that it was too much to ask or hope for.