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Re: And they all wonder why we insist on ad and tracking blockers

Post by Lucap » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:16 am

Don't know if it's still the same but the last time i tried Ublock Origin on youtube the Ublock numbers ran into the 100's and never stopped.

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Re: And they all wonder why we insist on ad and tracking blockers

Post by Lucap » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:35 am

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page= ... e-Learning
Google today rolled out their Auto Ads technology that utilizes machine learning for coming up with the placement and selection of ads.
Instead of the usual 2 or 3 ads they are now all over their webpage , so that's an improvement. <--------------- Sarcasm :roll:

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Re: And they all wonder why we insist on ad and tracking blockers

Post by Faust » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:07 am

Lucap wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:16 am
Don't know if it's still the same but the last time i tried Ublock Origin on youtube the Ublock numbers ran into the 100's and never stopped.
I'm not seeing any of that here ( using Waterfox / uBlock Origin / NoScript )
To watch Youtube I just need one click in NoScript .... " Temporarily allow all this page "
and no sign of ads anywhere .

Maybe I'm just lucky .... " If it ain't broken it's because it needs more tweaking "
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Re: And they all wonder why we insist on ad and tracking blockers

Post by absque fenestris » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:07 am

Lucap wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:35 am
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page= ... e-Learning
Google today rolled - out their Auto Ads technology that utilizes machine learning for coming up with the placement and selection of ads.
Instead of the usual 2 or 3 ads they are now all over their webpage , so that's an improvement. <--------------- Sarcasm :roll:
Google is a very poor company - they can't afford 32bit support and no supporter who tells them that they don't. As a result pop-up messages like "Please install Chrome" on a 32bit system like mine are a bit strange.
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Re: And they all wonder why we insist on ad and tracking blockers

Post by Faust » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:34 am

Lucap wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:35 am
Google..... machine learning .....
I prefer to call it A.S.

.... " Artificial Stupidity "
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Re: And they all wonder why we insist on ad and tracking blockers

Post by Lucap » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:12 am

Faust wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:34 am

I prefer to call it A.S.

.... " Artificial Stupidity "
Pretty much spot on as Mint Google Ads keeps showing me banners to date Women 6000 miles away and phoronix Google Ads is currently spamming me to join Adobe Cloud so i'm not sure how they correlate. :D

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Re: And they all wonder why we insist on ad and tracking blockers

Post by Moem » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:23 am

If you like ads, don't complain.
If you don't, make them go away. Either way, don't complain.
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Re: And they all wonder why we insist on ad and tracking blockers

Post by Lucap » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:37 am

absque fenestris wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:07 am
Google is a very poor company - they can't afford 32bit support and no supporter who tells them that they don't. As a result pop-up messages like "Please install Chrome" on a 32bit system like mine are a bit strange.
Here in the UK Google spams us with a "A privacy reminder from Google" rather than the usual please install Chrome that most people get.

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Re: And they all wonder why we insist on ad and tracking blockers

Post by absque fenestris » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:49 am

Lucap wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:37 am
absque fenestris wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:07 am
Google is a very poor company - they can't afford 32bit support and no supporter who tells them that they don't. As a result pop-up messages like "Please install Chrome" on a 32bit system like mine are a bit strange.
Here in the UK Google spams us with a "A privacy reminder from Google" rather than the usual please install Chrome that most people get.
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Re: And they all wonder why we insist on ad and tracking blockers

Post by AZgl1500 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:30 am

Now that I have Privacy Badger and uBlock Origin installed, I am not bothered with ads any more.

Purposely have been reading new.google.com and linking to all the bad offenders in the advertising game, and so far, I am still not seeing any adverts.


If you care, here is a full screenshot of the Chicago Tribune with usually is full of advertisements.

https://i.imgur.com/NW7RYw1.png

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Re: And they all wonder why we insist on ad and tracking blockers

Post by Portreve » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:01 pm

So many institutional or legal structures have come into existence since the late 1990s, and significantly moreso since the 2000s, with which I simply do not agree.

ASCAP and BMI, for instance, have tried to force bars, restaurants, and other businesses to sign licenses and pay money for playing music in their establishments. They have tried to force through our legal system that any public performance of an artist's material is eligible for payment, or subject to legal liability on the basis of infringement. In theory, singing, humming, or whistling a tune in public legally runs afoul of this.

My reaction is that I have never signed any agreement or contract with ASCAP, BMI, or anyone else to agree to such a policy, and I do not and will not recognize its legitimacy. Now, to be fair, I don't own a business so I've nothing for them to try and come after, but I simply refuse to play along with this nonsense as a matter of principle.

When it comes to the "Usage of our website constitutes [automatic] acceptance of associated terms and conditions", this is often called "shrinkwrap licensing" because of license agreements being located inside of a box that's shrinkwrapped (to prevent pilfering) that you can't agree to without breaking the shrinkwrap to gain access to read, thus usually making the item (typically software) non-returnable. Insofar as website-type agreements are concerned, their actual enforceability in court is a gray area, from everything I've ever seen written on the subject.

Now, as a practical matter, websites can and often will block content if they detect an ad blocker or other (from their perspective) "objectionable" web browser software component is installed on your computer. My attitude then is I will not, upon initial discovery of this being the case, return to their web site. I will not allow myself to be manipulated or controlled by an external entity wherever it is possible to prevent it, absolutely when that external entity is a purely commercial one. For example, there are a number of bridges in the area where I live, and across the state there are any of a number of toll roads, all of which you can make cash payments to use, or elect to use a transponder. I don't agree to the terms and conditions of the transponder/toll authorities, and therefore I pay cash when I have no practical alternative but to use them, and I otherwise avoid them altogether. Also, any sports game that's broadcast carries with it a legal disclaimer stating you're not allowed to rebroadcast or in any form repeat the contents of the game. Though I'm confident they won't do anything about it, that means just discussing the game with someone else is against their "terms and conditions". If I was into sports (which I'm not) then that alone would dissuade me from ever watching a sports game.
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Re: And they all wonder why we insist on ad and tracking blockers

Post by oxygenfarm » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:49 pm

I like that 'fresh air' stance from FL....fresh air is good for the soul. I detest those news digests which shift you to the originator page, which then tells you you can't read unless you subscribe.

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Re: And they all wonder why we insist on ad and tracking blockers

Post by AZgl1500 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:11 pm

oxygenfarm wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:49 pm
I like that 'fresh air' stance from FL....fresh air is good for the soul. I detest those news digests which shift you to the originator page, which then tells you you can't read unless you subscribe.
I too dislike those types of news sites.... but Firefox has a way around that, you just click on the Text icon in the URL line and it pops up a straight text version of what you want to read, and the advertisements go bye bye

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Re: And they all wonder why we insist on ad and tracking blockers

Post by MurphCID » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:35 am

I completely agree, I despise being tracked, monetized, and snooped on all over the internet. If I go to a site that tells me I have an ad blocker, then I leave and do not return.

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