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Not exactly Mint related: tutorial on the use of DD-WRT needed

Post by Charlie » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:32 pm

I'd appreciate it immensely if some kind soul, more knowledgeable than myself, would write some tutorials on the use of DD-WRT. In plain easy to understand, implement, and learn from language, about the inner workings of this router dwelling Linux based firmware.

I am particularly, at present, interested in getting the "Bittorrent" client to work, but am interested in all of it.

At the moment I use the FTP server, the Samba server and the SSH server and OpenVPN client without issue, but lack the Linux experience/knowledge to enable me to delve deeper.
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Re: Not exactly Mint related but...

Post by majpooper » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:52 pm

I put DD-WRT on a very old router when I build my "Y" router configuration (two routers behind a third router that faces the outside) - jabbing an ice pick in my ear would have been less painful. The blogs, forums and tutorials are anywhere from useless at worst to giving you a few clues at best. It took me a few weeks off and on of trying and testing (and much gnashing of teeth and pulling my hair out) to finally get it installed and running. I went through so many iterations and tried so many things there is no way I could possibly remember how I did it let alone tell someone else what to do - after God knows how many attempts there it was installed and it just worked.

Good stuff once you have it up and running though - but I am not putting it on the other routers as I originally planned - no way in . . . . . well you get the picture.

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Re: Not exactly Mint related but...

Post by majpooper » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:04 pm

JoeFootball wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:40 pm
DD-WRT Wiki Tutorials

Joe
yeah - good luck with that. I guess a lot has to do with what router you have. Pretty much the first place everyone goes to for dd-wrt. Problem is trying to get the correct files (what is on that site is not always up to date - the files they listed for my router were incorrect in that they had changed) and getting the install procedure right doing so can be very confusing. There are some helpful YouTube videos although not for my specific router but they gave me the basic idea. The hard part for me was tracking down the right files then getting the install process right. You are warned that it is very easy to brick your router if you get "it" wrong. Well I sure got it wrong a bunch but for whatever reason I didn't brick my router - I was almost hoping I would so I could be done with the whole mess but I finally got dd-wrt loaded.

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Re: Not exactly Mint related but...

Post by Charlie » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:09 pm

JoeFootball wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:40 pm
DD-WRT Wiki Tutorials

Joe
Thanks but I have scoured that and most things are either incomprehensible or very out of date, the same goes for a Google search. Many tutorials describe how to install "Bittorrent" for example. In the new version that is already done. You would imagine that would make things easier, but I don't think that is the only change.

If a book were written explaining it in n00b type language I would gladly purchase a copy.

This might surprise but I have used DD-WRT for many years. Installation is easy but until now I have been satisfied using the OpenVPN client, or just as extra security in the very beginning.

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Re: Not exactly Mint related but...

Post by Hoser Rob » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:13 pm

I don't think it's possible to explain such a thing in any detail and make it novice compliant. Learning curve ahead. What does this do that justifies such a learning curve?

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Re: Not exactly Mint related but...

Post by Charlie » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:16 pm

majpooper wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:52 pm
I put DD-WRT on a very old router when I build my "Y" router configuration (two routers behind a third router that faces the outside) - jabbing an ice pick in my ear would have been less painful. The blogs, forums and tutorials are anywhere from useless at worst to giving you a few clues at best. It took me a few weeks off and on of trying and testing (and much gnashing of teeth and pulling my hair out) to finally get it installed and running. I went through so many iterations and tried so many things there is no way I could possibly remember how I did it let alone tell someone else what to do - after God knows how many attempts there it was installed and it just worked.

Good stuff once you have it up and running though - but I am not putting it on the other routers as I originally planned - no way in . . . . . well you get the picture.
I know what you mean, very frustrating, and the DD-WRT forum is famously unwelcoming and unfriendly. So no expert help to be had there.

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Re: Not exactly Mint related but...

Post by Charlie » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:18 pm

Hoser Rob wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:13 pm
I don't think it's possible to explain such a thing in any detail and make it novice compliant. Learning curve ahead. What does this do that justifies such a learning curve?
Well it provides a lot of functionality. Which at present is a mystery. I imagine even with Linux experience this beast would be hard to tame.

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Re: Not exactly Mint related but...

Post by Charlie » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:59 pm

Last night I was playing with "Freeradius" on the router, got much of it sorted in my head but getting it to actually work proved difficult, but I am sure it will be achievable eventually. Even any of the rare tutorials for that are out of date or involve an unfamiliar scenario.

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Re: Not exactly Mint related but...

Post by phd21 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:11 pm

Hi Charlie,
Charlie wrote:I am particularly, at present, interested in getting the "Bittorrent" client to work, but am interested in all of it.
There are various Torrent clients that work very well in Linux and Linux Mint and they do not require installing or using the hardware router software "dd-wrt". AFAIK, all Linux Mint systems come with a torrent client installed, but you can install others like the excellent Tixati, qBitTorrent, Deluge, etc...

Using a reliable VPN provider from the desktop or the router is a very good idea regardless whether you use torrents or not. If you are using a torrent client, then enable the encryption options and select the network adapter of "tun0" (tunnel 0) when using a VPN.

Hope this helps ...
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Re: Not exactly Mint related but...

Post by Charlie » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:17 pm

phd21 wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:11 pm
Hi Charlie,
Charlie wrote:I am particularly, at present, interested in getting the "Bittorrent" client to work, but am interested in all of it.
There are various Torrent clients that work very well in Linux and Linux Mint and they do not require installing or using the hardware router software "dd-wrt". AFAIK, all Linux Mint systems come with a torrent client installed, but you can install others like the excellent Tixati, qBitTorrent, Deluge, etc...

Using a reliable VPN provider from the desktop or the router is a very good idea regardless whether you use torrents or not. If you are using a torrent client, then enable the encryption options and select the network adapter of "tun0" (tunnel 0) when using a VPN.

Hope this helps ...
I am grateful for the input as always but am aware of clients in Mint. I was looking to offload that task to the router if possible. Even to just get it working would satisfy my interest. Just seeing that functionality makes me want to have it working, maybe it runs poorly, maybe it crashes the router. I don't know, but I need to. I want to exploit that functionality to the maximum.

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Re: Not exactly Mint related but...

Post by phd21 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:54 pm

Hi Charlie,

You are welcome...

I was not aware that you could actually have the hardware router perform tasks like downloading torrents.

dd-wrt and torrent downloading - Google Search
https://www.google.com/search?client=op ... 8&oe=UTF-8

How to set up and use Asus RT-AC66U router Download Manager to download and manage Bit Torrent files - Storage
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/id-20 ... files.html

Guide: Using A Router To Download Torrents Automatically | TechTree.com
http://www.techtree.com/content/feature ... cally.html

Best routers for torrenting. Download movies using standalone router itself.
http://www.zelect.in/router/best-router-for-torrenting


Hope this helps ...
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Re: Not exactly Mint related: tutorial on the use of DD-WRT needed

Post by Charlie » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:47 pm

From those links which you kindly provided it looks like the Asus router is the best option and unfortunately mine is Netgear, which I have customised, and doing similar things is significantly more difficult. Apparently it runs AsusWRT, which I wish I could install. On further reading it looks like a 'dumbed down' version of DD-WRT and does not include OpenVPN. The other things in the links are out of date. I might have to chance my luck on the DD-WRT forum. OUCH!

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Re: Not exactly Mint related: tutorial on the use of DD-WRT needed

Post by Portreve » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:28 pm

I've set DD-WRT up on several routers, and I'll vouch for what's been said above: the particulars can and do vary widely. Once it's on and running, normal operations are a breeze, and some routers make the flashing procedure easier than others.
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Re: Not exactly Mint related: tutorial on the use of DD-WRT needed

Post by phd21 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:00 pm

Hi Charlie,

You are welcome again...

There are different versions of router software (firmware) for different router hardware, some newer ones cannot even be "flashed" properly because of new restrictions. "dd-wrt" is one of a few different good "open source" router software that is available, "tomato" is another, etc... Be careful because you can "brick" your router which means it will become unusable. You can also buy routers that are pre-configured with various "open source" firmware software.

router buying advice please - Linux Mint Forums
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=222104&hilit=router+tomato

New Router Recommendation with Physical VPN? - Linux Mint Forums
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=258703&hilit=router+tomato



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Re: Not exactly Mint related: tutorial on the use of DD-WRT needed

Post by Charlie » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:47 pm

I have come to the conclusion that most cannot use DD-WRT in its entirety. Why? Because it is very popular, and there must be very many people that either have it on their router, or have had it on their router. Yet there are so few tutorials on the net, and the few that can be found are hopelessly out of date. I would expect to find detailed tutorials all over the place on each and every aspect, but the only one that would fit with that is installation.

After that you are more or less on your own.

Somehow I find that difficult to swallow. I know how people love to write tutorials.

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Re: Not exactly Mint related: tutorial on the use of DD-WRT needed

Post by jimallyn » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:55 pm

I will have to agree that the DD-WRT documentation is abysmal. I managed to get it installed on a router, but haven't got all the functions working the way I want them yet.
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