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Linux Apps Coming To ChromeOS

Post by alexa9 » Tue May 08, 2018 8:17 pm

This is good news. I like the Chromebook/box a lot but it doesn't have a dedicated music player and is a little limited. The hardware on them is pretty nice for the $200-300 range from Acer both laptops and desktops.

https://www.androidauthority.com/chrome ... ps-863253/
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Linux programs come to Chromebooks

Post by michael louwe » Wed May 09, 2018 5:36 am

https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-com ... romebooks/

Come July 2018 onwards, will it be a good idea to run Linux Mint on a newly-bought budget Chromebook, as above.? = rather than buying a new budget OEM Win 10 laptop/netbook/2-in-1 tablet and then installing Linux Mint on it, since some of them do not permit Linux to be installed easily, eg Acer Aspire ES1-533, Chuwi Hi10, etc.
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Re: Linux comes to Chromebooks

Post by xenopeek » Wed May 09, 2018 8:33 am

Did I misunderstand the article, or does it only talk about running Linux distros in a virtual machine on top of ChromeOS? I don't see why I'd want that. For a budget Chromebook, hampered with low RAM and almost no storage, I don't see how this would give a good experience either.

Googling on your Acer Aspire ES1-533 and Chuwi Hi10 examples provides easy enough to follow instructions for installing Linux on them. For the Chuwi tablet things like touchscreen and soundcard may not work (perfectly) but nothing is stopping you from installing Linux on it.

There are companies that sell laptops without an operating system or with Linux installed. You might not find something in the 200-300 USD range of low end Chromebooks but certainly in the 400-500 USD mid range.
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Re: Linux comes to Chromebooks

Post by Pierre » Wed May 09, 2018 9:39 am

According to Google, you will soon be able to run Linux inside a virtual machine (VM) that was designed from scratch for Chromebooks. That means it will start in seconds, and it integrates completely with Chromebook feature.

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So, unlike Croton or Gallium, you will be able to start Linux apps with a click of a Chrome OS icon. Linux and Chrome OS windows can be moved around, and you can open files from Linux apps.
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Re: Linux comes to Chromebooks

Post by smurphos » Wed May 09, 2018 9:55 am

It's a containerised Debian Stretch that is being introduced - as Pierre says on Chromebooks with sufficient processing power it should provide a pretty seamless integration between Chrome OS / Linux Apps / Android Apps - you'll probably be able to chuck Windows apps in the mix as-well via WINE or Crossover. It's basically the feature that makes the more expensive Chromebooks worth the money and a suitable machine for development.

I like the idea although if projects like Anbox mature so that any Linux box can run Android Apps easily then that would be my ideal. I doubt my own cheapy chromebook (basically the lounge/travel laptop) will run it well if it ever gets the feature.

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Re: Linux comes to Chromebooks

Post by xenopeek » Wed May 09, 2018 11:15 am

Thanks for that smurhpos.

So it's a way for ChromeOS users to use Linux programs as if they were native programs, with access to their files on Google Drive and local storage, by employing a builtin custom Linux virtual machine to actually run the Linux programs in. Allegedly users will be able to use apt-get to install additional programs.

But if it would need a more expensive Chromebook, why not just get a laptop and run software of your own choosing? Anyway, you can tell I have no use for ChromeOS or Android programs :) (Or Windows programs.)
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Re: Linux programs come to Chromebooks

Post by kenetics » Wed May 09, 2018 2:48 pm

I have a budget Samsung 3 Chromebook and it would be nice to be able to run LibreOffice on it. I use a lot of spreadsheets, some with personal information, and prefer to keep them stored locally.

One advantage of a Chromebook, even the cheap ones, is the ability to run games and apps from the Google Play store. Unfortunately, the LibreOffice app has poor reviews and doesn't appear to be very usable at this point.

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Re: Linux programs come to Chromebooks

Post by michael louwe » Wed May 09, 2018 5:18 pm

kenetics wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 2:48 pm
I have a budget Samsung 3 Chromebook and it would be nice to be able to run LibreOffice on it. I use a lot of spreadsheets, some with personal information, and prefer to keep them stored locally.

One advantage of a Chromebook, even the cheap ones, is the ability to run games and apps from the Google Play store. Unfortunately, the LibreOffice app has poor reviews and doesn't appear to be very usable at this point.
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Google Play Store. Not Google Work Store for serious apps/programs.

AFAIK, Android, iOS and Windows UWP apps cannot accommodate full suite programs/apps, eg business software, 3D games, etc.

Is the OP a good idea.?

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Re: Linux programs come to Chromebooks

Post by Moem » Wed May 09, 2018 5:27 pm

For me as a Google avoider, that's a rather big NOPE. If I were to ever get a Chromebook, it would be running Linux before you could say 'erase disk and install Linux Mint'. :lol:
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Re: Linux programs come to Chromebooks

Post by smurphos » Thu May 10, 2018 12:57 am

michael louwe wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 5:18 pm
Google Play Store. Not Google Work Store for serious apps/programs.

AFAIK, Android, iOS and Windows UWP apps cannot accommodate full suite programs/apps, eg business software, 3D games, etc.

Is the OP a good idea.?
Nah, there are plenty of decent productivity apps (and tons of 3D games if thatºs your thing) available for Android. Itºs just LibreOffice viewer that is not very good. There is a gap for a decent FOSS Android Office suite - there are several good non-FOSS Office Suites - including MS Office Online :roll: - still this project will allow ChromeOS users to run full Linux Libreoffice as if it was a native ChromeOS app so that problem is solved if you are on ChromeOS.

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Re: Linux programs come to Chromebooks

Post by MintBean » Thu May 10, 2018 2:45 am

Personally I would always want to run Linux as the host rather than Linux on top of an Android Frankenkernel with questionable security credentials.

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Re: Linux programs come to Chromebooks

Post by michael louwe » Thu May 10, 2018 4:46 am

As per ... http://www.fascinatingcaptain.com/blog/ ... ome-drive/ , it's not easy installing LM 18.x as a single-boot on Intel-x86-based Chromebooks.

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Re: Linux Apps Coming To ChromeOS

Post by Hoser Rob » Thu May 10, 2018 10:31 am

I read something similar (forgot where) and it's good news. But I suspect you'd need more drive space than most Chromebooks have for this. Still, very encouraging.

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Re: Linux programs come to Chromebooks

Post by Hoser Rob » Wed May 16, 2018 10:01 am

Still liking the idea but you may want to see this:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/09 ... chrome_os/

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Re: Linux programs come to Chromebooks

Post by kenetics » Wed May 16, 2018 3:55 pm

Hoser Rob wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 10:01 am
Still liking the idea but you may want to see this:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/09 ... chrome_os/
Well, that's discouraging. Who would pay that much for a Chromebook?

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