Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

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Are forums password requirements too complicated?

Not at all.
38
76%
Kinda.
5
10%
For sure!
7
14%
 
Total votes: 50

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Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by jimallyn » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:15 pm

It has been suggested that the forums password requirements are too complicated:
Password must be between 10 characters and 32 characters long, must contain letters in mixed case, must contain numbers and must contain symbols.
What do you think?
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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by smurphos » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:18 pm

That describes all my passwords, 186 of them at the last count. KeepassXC thank-you.... : :mrgreen:

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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by karlchen » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:36 pm

The requirements are nothing extraordinary today. Plus, any browser is able to store the forum password. So you do not even have to type it everytime when you log in.
Consistently, my vote was for "Not at all."
So far so good.
What concerns me more is that you cannot manage security questions based on polls.
Even if a majority of voters should consider the forum password requirements too complicated, it would be a rather unwise idea to lower those requirements.
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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by absque fenestris » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:49 pm

Is this thread serious or sarcastic?
If serious: good night... :mrgreen:
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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by Moem » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:51 pm

absque fenestris wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:49 pm
Is this thread serious or sarcastic?
Yes. It definitely is.
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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by gm10 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:53 pm

Couldn't find "turtles" option on the poll, voted "For sure!" instead for the lulz.

(you could make the password min len 200 characters and I still wouldn't care)
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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by Moem » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:57 pm

gm10 wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:53 pm
voted "For sure!" instead for the lulz.
That's funny? I think I'm missing the joke again...
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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by gm10 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:59 pm

Moem wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:57 pm
gm10 wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:53 pm
voted "For sure!" instead for the lulz.
That's funny? I think I'm missing the joke again...
I thought the entire thread is a joke. In what world would you weaken account security because of such a poll? I must be missing something, too.

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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by Schultz » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:02 pm

I think you need to change your vote, then.
gm10 wrote:
In what world would you weaken account security because of such a poll?
I don't think they are. It was motivated by this posting: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=276799

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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by Moem » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:04 pm

gm10 wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:59 pm
In what world would you weaken account security because of such a poll? I must be missing something, too.
You are missing the fact that no one said that the poll would have any consequences for forum password policy. As far as I know, it's just gathering opinions out of curiosity.
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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by gm10 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:11 pm

Moem wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:04 pm
gm10 wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:59 pm
In what world would you weaken account security because of such a poll? I must be missing something, too.
You are missing the fact that no one said that the poll would have any consequences for forum password policy. As far as I know, it's just gathering opinions out of curiosity.
Ok, if you want a serious take on it then, the issue cannot possibly be the password complexity as such, just some users may be troubled having to come up with one that meets the requirements. So if you were to add a little javascript behind a button to generate random passwords that meet the requirements, that would take care of that problem quite elegantly.

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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by MrEen » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:17 pm

gm10 wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:11 pm

Ok, if you want a serious take on it then, the issue cannot possibly be the password complexity as such, just some users may be troubled having to come up with one that meets the requirements. So if you were to add a little javascript behind a button to generate random passwords that meet the requirements, that would take care of that problem quite elegantly.
But, but, but then I can't use the same password here that I use everywhere else!!!!11

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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by gm10 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:23 pm

MrEen wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:17 pm
gm10 wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:11 pm

Ok, if you want a serious take on it then, the issue cannot possibly be the password complexity as such, just some users may be troubled having to come up with one that meets the requirements. So if you were to add a little javascript behind a button to generate random passwords that meet the requirements, that would take care of that problem quite elegantly.
But, but, but then I can't use the same password here that I use everywhere else!!!!11
Get a better default password. I think this one passes all requirements and is really easy to remember:
8=======lD
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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by all41 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:34 pm

spaces count as both a charachter and a symbol.
Password could be something as simple as:
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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by Pierre » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:02 pm

with the requirement, of 10 characters for the Minimum length,,
- that's longer than what us usually required & maybe a bit Too Long.
:)
but, not as bad as those Federal Government Requirements .. ..
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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by lexon » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:31 pm

Some people sre just flat lazy.

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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by lsemmens » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:01 pm

I have a default password for places where I don't care if it gets found or not. Password memory in FF makes other sites easy to log in. FWIW my BANK passwords are not stored ANYWHERE except in my brain. A long password is way more secure than a short one. A%^r3 is way less secure than IDon'tGiveAStuffWhatYourPasswordIs and I know what is easier to remember!
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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by BenTrabetere » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:53 am

I do not have a problem or issue with the password requirement here. At the very most I only have to enter it three times - when I change it and enter the confirmation, and if I choose to enter it by hand the next time I log in. KeePassXC and my browser does the rest of the work for me.

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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by jimallyn » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:18 am

gm10 wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:59 pm
I thought the entire thread is a joke. In what world would you weaken account security because of such a poll? I must be missing something, too.
No, this thread is not in any way, shape, or form a joke. In another thread, a forums member was complaining that the password requirements were too complicated. When several people said that they didn't think it was too complicated, he said, "Do a survey : you will see 95 % of the forum complaining !" So, I started this poll. Darn, I should have got him to bet money on it!
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Re: Poll: are forums password requirements too complicated?

Post by gm10 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:25 am

Ah, I see. Frankly I had no idea what the password requirements even were before this was brought up. When I need a new password, I just have my password manager generate one and then I forget about it. I see no need for simple passwords, ever.

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