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Re: Good fathers teach their sons DIY skills

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:15 am
by ugly
jimallyn wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:18 pm
“A human being should be able to ... die gallantly ...” - Robert A. Heinlein
I tried to do that once. It didn't work out. And I never got a second chance at it.

Re: Good fathers teach their sons DIY skills

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:34 am
by lsemmens
I never had a dad (he died when I was 3) but this Baby Boomer survived. I agree with what Ugly has said. My kids all grew up learning how to do for themselves, not that they seem to have the time. Society is the poorer for the need to have a dual income just to survive. The kids lose out. If governments would realise that they'd be better off paying one parent to stay at home with their kids, then they'd not have a lot of the social issues that currently cost us.

Re: Good fathers teach their sons DIY skills

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:01 am
by Pjotr
lsemmens wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:34 am
Society is the poorer for the need to have a dual income just to survive. The kids lose out. If governments would realise that they'd be better off paying one parent to stay at home with their kids, then they'd not have a lot of the social issues that currently cost us.
Off topic, but so true.... Furthermore, the current structure of the western economies provides a huge disincentive for getting children. No wonder the birth rate is going down below the reproduction rate. It's insane and destructive.

Re: Good fathers teach their sons DIY skills

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:04 am
by RollyShed
Pjotr wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:01 am
No wonder the birth rate is going down below the reproduction rate. It's insane and destructive.
But it is the only way to save the planet, reduce the population - vastly.

Re: Good fathers teach their sons DIY skills

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:53 am
by Pjotr
RollyShed wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:04 am
Pjotr wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:01 am
No wonder the birth rate is going down below the reproduction rate. It's insane and destructive.
But it is the only way to save the planet, reduce the population - vastly.
It would, if the non-western countries would show the same decline. However.... :wink: