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Re: 750 MB. WOW! "What would you do with SO MUCH hard disc space ?"

Post by murray » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:32 pm

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I see you live in Bath, Paul. I've not long come home from a holiday in the UK and we spent a day in Bath, a very beautiful place!
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Post by absque fenestris » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:42 pm

The gas would do a great job of putting out the fire but was poisonous and would kill anyone in the room, so getting out quick was imperative!
The lonely death of the computer supporter... Sounds like Edgar Allan Poe in the digital age. Has no one ever been caught?
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Post by Paul_Pedant » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:18 pm

Ah, the magic of Halon! Allegedly, it wouldn't poison you, but it diluted the existing oxygen fairly thoroughly.

The real risk was that it chilled as it expanded, and fogged up the whole room very effectively. So if you held your breath, put your head down, and ran for the door, you would probably go head-first into a pillar, a wall, or a cabinet, and knock yourself out.

Our problem was generally that they also fitted an emergency power button next to the door in case of electrical fire. It would be right next to the light switch or the door security release, so it got pushed by accident at least once a week. We just taped a plastic cup over it.

Rather later, we got a lot of neat little desk-side Unix boxes called the Perq 3. These had a rocker power switch, exactly where your knee would hit it when you sat down next to the desk it was under. A cigarette pack was exactly the right size to tape over the switch.

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Re: 750 MB. WOW! "What would you do with SO MUCH hard disc space ?"

Post by absque fenestris » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:33 pm

Paul_Pedant wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:18 pm
Ah, the magic of Halon! Allegedly, it wouldn't poison you, but it diluted the existing oxygen fairly thoroughly.

The real risk was that it chilled as it expanded, and fogged up the whole room very effectively. So if you held your breath, put your head down, and ran for the door, you would probably go head-first into a pillar, a wall, or a cabinet, and knock yourself out.

Our problem was generally that they also fitted an emergency power button next to the door in case of electrical fire. It would be right next to the light switch or the door security release, so it got pushed by accident at least once a week. We just taped a plastic cup over it.

Rather later, we got a lot of neat little desk-side Unix boxes called the Perq 3. These had a rocker power switch, exactly where your knee would hit it when you sat down next to the desk it was under. A cigarette pack was exactly the right size to tape over the switch.
If I understand you correctly, plastic cups and cigarette packs have saved both reckless supporters and perhaps the whole world - depending on which computer center was affected...
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Re: 750 MB. WOW! "What would you do with SO MUCH hard disc space ?"

Post by murray » Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:06 pm

Paul_Pedant wrote:
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Ah, the magic of Halon! Allegedly, it wouldn't poison you, but it diluted the existing oxygen fairly thoroughly.
Yeah I think they were just trying to scare me (it worked!)
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Post by lsemmens » Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:03 am

The world would never have survived were it not for cigarette packs, Cups, fencing wire and Gaffa tape. :D

I even managed to fix a radiator leak with a sheet metal screw once. It was still there when I sold the car some years later.
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Post by Hoser Rob » Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:05 am

I remember a guy I knew in the early 80s had a BASF box set up for running APL. He had in a 5 Megabyte HD in it and it cost about $2000 CDN at the time.

However, the old saying in computing that "data always multiplies to fill avaiable sttorage" is absolutely 100% true. People are running out of space on their HDs nowadays just as fast as they were back then. Of course they weren't using their computers as media boxes back then either.

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Post by vansloneker » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:21 pm

My 1st computer with an internal hard disk drive had no less than 10MB! Beat that!
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Post by carum carvi » Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:54 am

In the early eighties my father had bought a Sharp pocket computer, with BASIC programming language. As kids we installed a golf game, which existed of nothing else but a number counting down till zero. You had to press exactly the right time for the number to land on ZERO exactly, which meant you had scored a hole in one! We were totally obsessed and pleased with that incredibly simple game!

That Sharp pocket computer was my first contact with computers and I even learned some BASIC computer language. It had only 4Kb RAM and 40Kb System ROM!

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Post by deepakdeshp » Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:06 am

In 1984 I dealt with a 16 bit machine which had switches to load the boot program. The 7.25 MB plattered disk drive was as big as a table.The platters were in a pack and the packs were replaceable. There was a card reader and punch. Core memory was 40 Mb and it's size was as big as a full length cupboard.
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Post by absque fenestris » Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:43 pm

carum carvi wrote:
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In the early eighties my father had bought a Sharp pocket computer, with BASIC programming language. As kids we installed a golf game, which existed of nothing else but a number counting down till zero. You had to press exactly the right time for the number to land on ZERO exactly, which meant you had scored a hole in one! We were totally obsessed and pleased with that incredibly simple game!
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About your device: around 1981 I bought myself a kind of a Casio calculator that was quite extended. It could calculate the third root and static mean values and it was also good as an egg timer and - by means of beeps - as a timer in the very analog darkroom... as an alarm clock anyway.
Was that my first computer?
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Post by murray » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:14 pm

Back in the mid 80's I had a Casio FX-790P which had 8KB of RAM, BASIC and assembler. I had it up until a few years ago when I finally threw it out because it stopped working.

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Post by absque fenestris » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:18 pm

I think my Casio should be somewhere deep, deep in a drawer: who knows? ...with new batteries?
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Re: 750 MB. WOW! "What would you do with SO MUCH hard disc space ?"

Post by carum carvi » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:15 am

absque fenestris wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:18 pm
I think my Casio should be somewhere deep, deep in a drawer: who knows? ...with new batteries?
I will look for that "computer" as well in my father's room. With new batteries those little machines will still work as smooth as before.

The line between a modern calculator and that Sharp/Casio pocket computer is indeed very thin. BUT I really did learn some BASIC computer language. Never had any use for it, but it was fun hobby anyway. I liked playing that golf game more though :D I definitely wanna play that game again with my brother...

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