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Acer's laptops are always broken...

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So, while checking stuff on the forum page, Installation & Boot, there's many problems regarding on installing and booting from an Acer laptop. Is Acer laptops basically hard to configure?
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Acers can be hard to install on because of their specific UEFI implementation.
I did an installation on an Acer once, it was a pain. First I had to set an admin password in order to be able to switch Secure Boot off, then I found out that while it was a 64-bits machine, it had and required 32-bits UEFI. So I had to add that to the bootable USB in order to get it to boot.

If someone wants to know which laptop they should buy in order to install Linux, I would never tell them to get an Acer, because of the above.
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Asus still looks decent, I still recommend them for easy configuration. Not those bullcrap Acer got.

But Acer laptops look good.
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For a lot more information on potential difficulties and solutions for problems installing to Acer (and other makes) see the Ubuntuforums thread by oldfred, one of the gurus about installing in UEFI.
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295

It's a bit old now but still very useful.

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No more so than HP or ASUS ones. Anything designed specifically for Windows cannot be expected to work perfectly without jumping through a couple of hoops first with Linux though.
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I have an HP Envy desktop which works perfectly well and easily enough with GNU+Linux. It's pathetic the same can't be said of their laptops.
Moem wrote:
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Acers can be hard to install on because of their specific UEFI implementation.
Geez... even Apple's laptops aren't that hard to put GNU+Linux on.
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DoodMann wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:19 am
Is Acer laptops basically hard to configure?
No. They're no worse (nor better) than those of other brands.
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I had some issues with Acer laptops in the past, they would spontaneously turn off while using it (CPU temperature was normal). This was on several systems and different Acer laptops. But this was over 10 years ago so things may have changed :)

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I have an Acer Aspire 5349 which i have used LM on with no problems since LM13. Now running LM19.3 xfce.

Just saying 😎🇬🇬

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But can you still say that I can use an Acer for Linux? Planning to buy one this year for me, but Asus laptops are really expensive here in the Philippines. A simple i5 with a 1050TI is at P45,000.
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Outside of System 76 and other vendor specific machines, Thinkpads may be the "gold standard" for Linux compatible devices...

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How much is a casual thinkpad? In dollars please.
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DoodMann wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:48 pm
But can you still say that I can use an Acer for Linux?
Sure. Your chance of success with Linux is exactly the same as with other brands. :wink:

Note that the brand name is fundamentally just a sticker. The big OEM's all buy their parts from just a few big manufacturers. All they do is fitting those parts together.
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Nice, hope I don't need help frome here once I buy that.
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Being more specific about particular models you are actually considering buying would get you more sensible replies, not just a brand name. However, a refurbished ThinkPad is a good shout, inparticular the T series. Asking how much is moot, it depends what models are available, how old they are and what condition they are in.
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DoodMann wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:01 pm
How much is a casual thinkpad? In dollars please.
Buy second hand. I've never bought a thinkpad new and I've been using them for nearly 20 years. Last T430 I bought off ebay was about $130 a year ago, came with 8GB RAM and a 320GB HDD, no OS. I did know what I was buying! Replaced the HDD with an SSD, net result - a laptop that runs cinnamon quite happily. Bought my first T430 about 3 years ago, probably paid around $600. Later models, expect to pay more, e.g. T440, T450, T460 - these are 14" models, the T5xx are 15".
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Pjotr wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:02 pm
Note that the brand name is fundamentally just a sticker. The big OEM's all buy their parts from just a few big manufacturers. All they do is fitting those parts together.
If it were true that "Brand X''s laptops are always broken...", nobody would ever install on any brand laptop. Far too many people have a nasty habit of characterising one single experience with brand X to absolutely everything to do with brand X. It's easier for them to do no thinking and cast aspersions than it is to ask for help or work out for themselves how they might figure out what the problem might be.
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Maybe you're right.
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DoodMann wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:48 pm
But can you still say that I can use an Acer for Linux?
You certainly can. Just be prepared to jump through some extra hoops. But we'll help you with that.
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Moem wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:23 am
Acers can be hard to install on because of their specific UEFI implementation.
I did an installation on an Acer once, it was a pain. First I had to set an admin password in order to be able to switch Secure Boot off, then I found out that while it was a 64-bits machine, it had and required 32-bits UEFI. So I had to add that to the bootable USB in order to get it to boot.
I had exactly the same problem a few days ago with an ASUS T100 Transformer Book, 32 bit UEFI and 64 system. I finally hacked it enough to keep them happy with Win10 as the original "fault" was a lost PIN.

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