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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by Old Marcus » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:49 pm

rhY wrote:No, no, corporatism is part of FASCISM. It's a FASCIST plot. That's the whole point of what I was trying to say! Want a Fanta? So did the ****!
I forgot to mention the Jews rule the world.
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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by Fred » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:04 pm

Linux is a communist plot
Well of course it is. And I was the runner-up and voted Mr. congeniality in the Mr. America contest this summer too!

I am also thinking of becoming a Chippendale dancer in my spare time to supplement my social security. If I can just find my little black bow-tie. :-)

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by catilley » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:45 pm

If there are any communists in the internet world, it has to be Microsoft. Not too long ago, I bought a retail version of Windows XP Pro for $200. About two weeks later, the hard drive in my laptop went out. I bought one at a really good deal from a doctor, the catch was it had no operating system on it. The drive had to be shredded to protect confidential information, so the OS went as well. So since the one I bought was still almost new, I installed it on my newly purchased laptop. You know what? Microsoft wouldn't go for that. They said that the OS that I bought lived and died with my broken laptop. I let them know that this was a bunch of bull. So they offered me a "solution" for my problem. They "allowed" me to install it for another $100. But that is not all. It took another six to seven hours to "validate" my system. They never have to worry about me doing business with them again. They can't even produce a good browser. Firefox 3.5 kicks IE8 in the butt so bad that it's a mismatch. But back to the point, Microsoft has a monopoly on the PC market. They support the anti-virus industry, the so called registry cleaning and repair businesses. Why do I say that? Because their product necessitates these industries. You don't need any of these services with Linux or Mac. And the way they treated me, I had Windows XP Pro since it was a release candidate, and they really showed their appreciation for it. That is communist. Telling me what I can and cannot do with my own laptop and the OS that I bought. Linux is not communist. It is about freedom, not only in price, but also as to how you want to use it. I'm a newbie and can see that. Linux is here to stay!

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by lagagnon » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:42 am

catilley wrote:If there are any communists in the internet world, it has to be Microsoft.
Now there is a very bad definition of communism. Microsoft are so far from being communists it is not funny. They are monopolists living in a capitalist society that should have broken that monopoly years ago.

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by SxFlare » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:02 pm

true, monopolies can be confused with communism, it's why many markets do not allow it where possible.
Monopolies are where one company controls most (theoretically all, but realistically it's most) of the market supply which is true. They are able to make the ridiculously high prices for their OS, because they've still got the monopoly. Ironically, because of the amount of control microsoft has on the OS market, the side effect is that the black market for said OS is also relatively big, even though they try to control that too :)

But anyway, until a competitor *in the market* is able to compete with microsoft, it'll always be like this. I don't really see Mac as a competitor, but that could be possible too... if only they weren't more ridiculous than microsoft with their pricing.

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by Colonel Schell » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:07 am

I guess what I am talking about is a sort of interdependence, which can only spring from two or more independent people working together. This would not squash individualism, while still allowing people to work together.

Another problem I see, even in some of the posts in this thread, is the fact that schools for some time have not taught people how to think for themselves, or taught them any real political theory. I admit this is not my specialty, but I do know the difference between corporate monopoly, communism, and fascism.

I have also spent some time about the way the far right can resemble the far left, and at which point they meet in terms of result.

It is not in the best interest of politicians to have too many people around who can think for themselves. It makes it difficult, nay, nearly impossible to manipulate people.

The sad thing I observe in the camp on the right is that they believe they are the thinkers and that they are having their rights subverted by the hidden agendas of the left. The truth is, they are just parroting what they hear in church and on Fox news.
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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by Colonel Schell » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:09 am

Old Marcus wrote:
rhY wrote:No, no, corporatism is part of FASCISM. It's a FASCIST plot. That's the whole point of what I was trying to say! Want a Fanta? So did the ****!
I forgot to mention the Jews rule the world.
I am happy that I know enough about your sense of humor to realize this remark is tongue-in-cheek. :wink:
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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by nitehawk » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:45 pm

@ Fred....
I am also thinking of becoming a Chippendale dancer in my spare time to supplement my social security. If I can just find my little black bow-tie. :-)
...that's all you need? Well,..I'm sure we can find you one somewhere around here (don't think you'll be needing anything else)... :lol:

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by Colonel Schell » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:30 pm

Of course, there is the matter that you must change your picture to suit, or un-suit as may be more appropriate, your new avocation. :lol:
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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by hernando » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:30 pm

Hey, i run into this thread...

I just wanted to say that the "Linux is a communist plot" is not a real thing. I mean, the blog that published that is not a serious blog, it is a satyre, humour, politics humour.
Just look at the "Contact us" section of the blog:
www.shelleytherepublican.com

It is amazing how a lot of people fall in that trap... from both sides!

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by Nicki » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:13 am

Ok, so all this is humour and satire.

Then was also Joseph R. McCarthy the biggest humorist in the USA and probably the world. Why didn't he become more famous in television and movie?

Lock here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by rhY » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:16 am

The satirical blog aside, "Communism" is in no way related to "Fascism". Stalin was clearly a fascist. China is clearly a fascism. There has never been a Communist country. All so called countries have in fact been fascist. Corporate monopolism is an essential part of fascism by the way, and "Democracies" rarely exist either. Our current "Democracy" is clearly also a fascist corporate monopoly run police state. In a democracy, the populace gets a say. Here that is not the case. They clearly do not count our votes. Further, once votes are counted, they are frequently overturned by the courts, or by the very "representatives" that are in fact representing the corporations and the military industrial complex, and not the populace, whom they are SUPPOSED to represent.

"Communist" has become a bad word. As has "Democrat". But if you dig a little deeper, you will find very few of the "Communists" believed in socialism at all, but were actually fascists:

Stalin
Mao Tse Tung
Castro
etc...

Ironically, most "Democrats" AND "Republicans" are actually corporate whores solely in power with the intent and media support of the large fascist corporations they work for:

Viacom
AOL/Time Warner
Disney
Rupert Murdoch's News Corp
Bertelsmann

These five corporations own every newspaper, every magazine, every television station, every movie studio, and every record label. There is no real free market, because there is no real free press. The entire system is clearly operating as a corporate fascism, very reminiscent of **** Germany.

All this should come as no surprise, because the masterminds behind the German system were all imported directly to the US after WW2. They engineered the creation of the CIA, the murder of JFK (and subsequent coup), and on a positive note, NASA.

I'm a fan of space exploration, but I'd rather have my votes counted, frankly, and have a real elected leader, like JFK. Sadly, since that day in 1963, we've been living in a rapidly declining fascist police state. Not unlike "communist" China, or "communist" Russia, or "National Socialist" Germany, all three of which were also clearly fascisms run by a small cadre of monopolistic corporations.

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by Nicki » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:28 am

You are truly right rhY.

And beware of the fact that Joseph R. McCarthy is not alive nowadays. But his spirit is growing here in this blog.

Amen

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by hernando » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:11 pm

The fact that that blog is written as humour and satire, that doesn't mean that there aren't people who really think like that !
That's what frighten me !
And that's (i think) one of the objectives of that blog, to show how many people think the same as shelleytherepublican (the hipotetical one).

And I agree with rhY.
You can have a lot of combinations:
Capitalism / Comunism.
Fascism / Liberalism.

You can have a look at the Political Compass, that try to break with the Left-Right view of the politics:
http://politicalcompass.org/index

At the end it give a little more complexity, but at the end any simplification of politics is just that a simplification...

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by catilley » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:49 pm

If you don't like Linux, or you feel that it is a communist plot, then simply don't use Linux. You aren't doing anyone a favor by using it. We as a family don't need you or your analysis of our distro of CHOICE. We voluntarily choose to be here. We want the freedom to run what we want on our systems. If you're looking to be told what you can and cannot do with your very own system, go to Microsoft. They will be happy to oblige you. When you buy an OS from them, read the EULA agreement prior to installing. You have to do as they say or you cannot legally run the OS. Sure, you could hack it, but you run the risk of fine or possibly imprisonment. Now who is communist here? I'm a happy (and FREE) camper here. And if you're not, do us all a favor and go elsewhere. Long live freedom and long live Linux!

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Re: Linux is a communist plot [SOLVED ?]

Post by Nicki » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:40 am

Very god. I couldn't say it better my self. 10 points.

We will now hope that "tomast" will set this topic as [SOLVED]

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by vrkalak » Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:33 am

Catilley: "Applause!!" :mrgreen:

Well, said . . . I salute you.
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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by markfiend » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:13 am

Some crazy misinterpretations of what "communism" and "fascism" mean on this thread :lol:

Perhaps a more meaningful divide, particularly when it comes to software, is "totalitarian" against "anarchist". Totalitarian (proprietary) software allows the user as little freedom as possible, anarchist(free) software allows the user as much freedom as possible.
emorrp1 wrote:Well, to be fair, Linux is quite communist. Think about it, everyone contributes in the best way that they can, programmers write code, artists design the artwork, writers document, and some users donate, and through it all Linux gets better, created by the people, for the people :-)
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" -- I agree there is a communist aspect to Linux as well.

So we're anarchist-communists, maybe Linux is the CNT? :mrgreen:

Oh and the blog post referenced in the first post is obviously a victim of Poe's law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humour, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by delro » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:01 am

Yeah, it's sad that the OP's article can actually encompass the viewpoints of a lot of misguided people.

What I'm particularly saddened by these days is the demonizing of both the terms "socialist" and "communist". Theoretically, both of these systems are intrinsically on the positive side of things. Both of these ideologies only get mangled up when added the autocratic element, i.e. Adolf's "National Socialism" and Josef's "Communist Socialism".

The media concerned with demonizing these terms are funded by politicians and interest groups with concerns in private industry who fear the socializing or nationalizing of assets. They throw around the word socialism as a byword for the end of the free market so much that even the most well meaning of people can get confused.

Public schooling is a socialist idea, why aren't private schools lobbying for its end? The far right are so against abortion and so for the right to life (death penalty aside), why are they reluctant to give the people without healthcare what they need?

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by tomast » Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:05 am

Well it seems I have stuck a stick into a hornets nest...

Ya know I just put this here as kind of a joke because
it was just so totally ridiculous and kind of funny.
But it is also so sad that there are many people who
really believe this kind of thinking. The site may have been
a joke but there are lots of people who really think this way...
I am a proud American and I love my country , but lately
I am ashamed of the things I am hearing from both sides.
The American Gov. used to be to "represent" the people.
Now it seems they think they are there to "RULE" the people...

Nicki , I am afraid this will never be [SOLVED] until we all speak up
and fight against these crazy extremist ideas.

Just to be clear , I DO NOT agree with this kind of #@!%$.
I just thought it was funny and wanted to see what others here
thought about it.

Tom

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