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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by Nicki » Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:33 am

tomast wrote:
Nicki , I am afraid this will never be [SOLVED] until we all speak up
and fight against these crazy extremist ideas.

Just to be clear , I DO NOT agree with this kind of #@!%$.
I just thought it was funny and wanted to see what others here
thought about it.

Tom
But who is now an extremist and like to set people up? Perhaps the terrorists are only a kind of joke?
They "just thought it was funny and wanted to see what others here
thought about it".

Wake up and meet the reality before the reality meets you.
:lol: :D :) :? :roll: :lol:

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by tomast » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:54 am

Nicki,
I am not an extremist or a terrorist and I did not set anyone up.
I simply posted a link to a web site in order to start a discussion
about what they had to say.

Just because I do not agree with the ranting of an idiot does not
make me a terrorist.

I really like Mint and Linux in general and the subject line was
simply a quote from the web site.

I am just an old Hippy with an opinion.
I guess I will keep my opinion to myself in the future....

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by Nicki » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:04 pm

tomast wrote: ....
But it is also so sad that there are many people who
really believe this kind of thinking.
....
Did you also believe that McCarthy was joking?
Are the mass who are against the system wellfare that is proclaimed by Obama, are they also joking?
And the Vatican cardinal who said that the Holocaust is a fake?
When Israelites erase the history of Palestine and the Palestine's erase the history of Israel. Are the only playing a joke?
Is Castro really a communist? Isn't he only playing the world a game?

What do you really believe in? Except that you are an proud American and have therefore the opportunity to speak for the whole world?

You have your culture, we in Europe have our, the Asians have their, the Africans have their and the Arabs have their. There will always be conflicts when someone will cross the border and make a joke. The opponents have their history and their point of view.

If you will be respected for your opinion, you must have facts and speak the language that people are prepared to listen to.

So even when I try to see it from your point of view, I can never see the connection that Linux is communistic. I can only be sad of that hysterical reaction.

You can spread your message and thoughts on other forums but don't do it here, there is like become suicide. You could not count on to be taking seriously if you will post a topic which referee to something more concrete like programming or problems with drivers. Etc etc. They maybe will make you a joke of you. As a gift. :D To see how you react.

Sentence: Linux is developed by freedom and if Linux is a communistic plot, you must be afraid of freedom. And who other are afraid of such freedom? I am NOT. Now you can call me communist and report me to CIA. :twisted:

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by distro hopper » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:28 pm

This topic reminds me of an old RIAA comic... anybody remember the original? :P..
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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by Fred » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:48 pm

Please everybody, don't let this thread turn sour. Be careful what you post. Remember, when you bring politics and or religion into a forum, especially an international forum, you are bound to stimulate strong emotions and get sparks. It is really easy to get out onto thin ice, so-to-speak.

Don't let it deteriorate and create hard feelings that will serve no useful purpose and ultimately interfere with the mission of this forum. I am not saying that it is over the line, just that it could easily go that way if everyone isn't careful.

Thanks, :-)

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by Nicki » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:31 pm

Topics like this one, is likely suicide able as that one I saw in the Mandriva forum. (Yes, I like Mandriva also.) That one had a topic about "Mandriva is becoming a disaster". The whole system was a mess and everything went bad. He said it was just for fun, to see other peoples reaction. I just wonder what is the meaning of such topics. Do you think he is a responsible person in such forum? I wouldn't dare to take his answer as serious if he gave me an answer about my hardware/driver/sound issues.

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by FedoraRefugee » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:57 pm

Nicki,

I think YOU are the one who is over the line in here. I think you misunderstood what the original post was about. The site he linked is VERY offensive to many people, but you have to realize it is a spoof, a joke. It was written by idiots TRYING to make people mad. Dont take it like that. Laugh it off.

The MAJORITY of people do NOT think like a far right lunatic like the shellytherepublican blog portrays, nor do most people think on the far left as red communists. I wont even get into all the misrepresentations of different political ideals that is going on in this forum other than to say that ANY TIME you try to pigeon hole someone's beliefs you are probably making a grave error!

At any rate Nicki, you are becoming very confrontational towards the original poster when he is NOT saying the things you are accusing him of! His intent was to point out that some people really think this way though I seriously doubt ANYONE thinks this way! This blog has been angering people for years now, in that sense they are very successful. It is just ashame that so many fall for it when it is so obviously fake. No wonder this country is in such a mess when the left sees the right like this and the right views the left in a similar light. We have come to the point where we look at each other TRYING to find things to hate instead of finding things in common. God help us. :(

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by Nicki » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:14 pm

Well, If I had make you or other upset, then I have to apologize. :wink: But what about me or other people out there?

FedoraRefugee, you wrote: "The site he linked is VERY offensive to many people, but you have to realize it is a spoof, a joke. It was written by idiots TRYING to make people mad." What are those idiots TRYING to make people mad? Isn't this a copy of react? For God sake, what is fake and what isn't? Is your answer a fake? No, I don't think so. Let's continue this discussion on an other planet.

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by Shaddix » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:26 pm

this site is actually so stupid that it becomes funny :P

that guy is admiring IBM as a pure American Company, yet IBM has more people working for them in Asia than in the USA

his much loved Microsoft has leeched more from other OS than they did from Microsoft

from the comments:
Also I suspect that this Mac OS is sending personal information to Apple and other communist companies and organizations!
this guy is so smart lol :P
And I must also add that the link of terrorism and linux is not even hidden, if you take a look at website like this one : http://plf.zarb.org/about.php

Linux is just a anarchist invention aiming at bringing chaos and death everywhere in the world. I am still amazed to see that no one is able to see the truth in their games.
eerrhmm...

from the blog owner:
Tristan, I believe you!
This rj guy is probably a typical liberal liar.
Most of the internet is running on linux? Don’t make me laugh!!!
I used linux once. It’s terrible.
why laugh about something you don't know a single thing about? her own blog is running on a Linux machine...
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Anonymous April 26th, 2006 6:06 AM

too bad ShelleyTheRepublican.com
blogs is hosted on linux as shown by the nmap port scanner.

# nmap -O shelleytherepublican.com

Running: Linux 2.4.X|2.5.X, D-Link embedded
OS details: Linux 2.4.0 – 2.5.20, Linux 2.4.18 – 2.4.20, Linux 2.4.26, Linux 2.4.27 or D-Link DSL-500T (running linux 2.4)

Time to put your acts where your words are and find a linux-free hosting solution.
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Shelley April 26th, 2006 6:15 AM

Sorry, I think you are a liar.
Me and linux hosting? Never!
some comments from the author:
Thanks for posting my article Shelley; I submitted this to the mainstream IT press, but none of them wanted to know. It’s shocking to learn that the same liberal bias that infects mainstream news-sources also affects the technical press.
why would that be?
Yes, Linux is a primative European clone; It is much less capable than Windows. In fact it omits features that were standard in Windows back in 1998; For example Linux has no built-in anti-virus or anti-spyware software. You cannot even buy popular utilities like Norton Security to compensate for this fact. There are no tools for common tasks like defragging a hard disk. God knows what you would use to send a fax or make a website. You cannot even get Front Page for Linux.
this proofs he doesn't know what he's talking about
Indeed, if Blogger.com were using Linux I have no idea how they might have done it? I understand that you cannot get most popular web-site building tools (e.g Frontpage, Dreamweaver) for Linux.
I was surprised a guy who writes this was able to mail this article to the blog...
Oh my God, stop whining and complaining. I am telling you. I would never use Linux. It’s disgusting. I am using real AMERICAN software only. Everything else is for the Godless.
You need to turn to God and face the real you. You might be shocked.
Kindest of regards,
Shelley
so God is only with the Americans and not with the rest of the world?
a state of mint..

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by FedoraRefugee » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:03 pm

<slapping head>
this site is actually so stupid that it becomes funny
YES!!! That is IT!!!

Sheesh people...IT IS A JOKE!!! The site is NOT REAL!!!

Let me try to put this in simple terms. In America you have 2 main political parties. Republicans = right and Democrats = left. Each party has certain "characteristics" that the other side blows out of proportion so they have material to insult each other with. What this blog does is bring out these characteristics of the far right to make republicans look dumb. The site is NOT WRITTEN BY REPUBLICANS!!! It is a spoof ON republicans. It is designed to make the Republicans look stupid by claiming things that are not true or so far exaggerated they are ludicrous. Linux simply got caught up in a much bigger design in this blog, I am sure the writer of the piece was not counting on this single post having this much attention or impact. It says a lot about the mentality of the typical Linux user that it has. :( Talk about Linux and everyone goes ballistic. I dont think the blog writer fully realized this, or maybe they did. Either way, it has propelled shellytherepublican into mainstream fame! Linux users are all yelling and fighting back and the whole bloody thing is just a joke! One that happened THREE YEARS AGO! Check the date! It is STILL going on! Lol! It makes US look like the idiots! In our defense, many Linux users are not American and really do not understand what is happening here or the reasons why it was done. It is purely a political thing, nothing even to do with Linux.

Okay, I have laid it all out as plain as possible. The blog is not real, it is a joke. If you think it is a BAD joke then so be it. Join the club, though I do respect the shellytherepublican blog for their cleverness it is still foolishness. Some people just make a sport out of making fun of and hurting others. The truth is there are very few people who would actually hold the kind of ideas depicted in this blog. Those that do are held in contempt even by their own political party. They are wackos, crazies, not to be taken seriously. Now, if anyone in here still wants to take this thing seriously and rip apart every blog piece by piece then feel free. You are wasting your time. Of course the blog is full of holes, of course it is wrong. It is intended to be that way to show how hard headed and stupid republicans are. (their view, not mine. I am much more republican than I am democrat myself). It is not to be taken seriously.

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by catilley » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:59 am

That "comic" is not funny to me at all. It doesn't belong in a free society and does not reflect the ideas of the Linux family. Someone must be paying off the ones who online promotes these sickening ideas. I guess they are getting what they want when those like myself and many others of the Linux family speak up: ATTENTION! Please, for everyone's sake, mark this one as [SOLVED]. There are a lot of newbies such as myself who are on this forum for guidance, they read this mess and it makes them wonder if Linux users are a bunch of nuts. Some of them may never return. Now we don't want that, do we? I want Linux, especially Mint, to thrive. This is the best OS that Linux offers, in my opinion. Let's keep it that way.

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by Nicki » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:18 am

catilley: 10 points by me. And this is TRUE. Not a fake.

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by distro hopper » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:16 pm

catilley wrote:That "comic" is not funny to me at all. It doesn't belong in a free society and does not reflect the ideas of the Linux family.
In a free society, thats one of the ideals that makes up freedom; the ability to say something as looney-toons as is might sound to everyone else. You take the ability to do that away.. and we've lost freedom.
catilley wrote: Someone must be paying off the ones who online promotes these sickening ideas. I guess they are getting what they want when those like myself and many others of the Linux family speak up: ATTENTION! Please, for everyone's sake, mark this one as [SOLVED]. There are a lot of newbies such as myself who are on this forum for guidance, they read this mess and it makes them wonder if Linux users are a bunch of nuts. Some of them may never return. Now we don't want that, do we? I want Linux, especially Mint, to thrive. This is the best OS that Linux offers, in my opinion. Let's keep it that way.
The entire open source community is somewhat of a communist idea. Look up the semantics of COMMUNE/COMMUNITY/COMMUNISM. People tend to get all freaked out about the C word because they confuse it with some kind of Fascist regime (like Stalin or even the Chinese). Don't make that same mistake.

Linux is not about ramming itself down somebody's throat. In fact it thrives on the fact that people choose it of their own free will! There is nothing fascist about Linux, it is the winning underdog in a commercial world despite it's communal roots and people who use it know it's better than commerical (or any non-commercial) OSes out there.

There's nothing wrong with Communism or Socialism, silly brainwashed Americans.
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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by catilley » Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:21 pm

No, it is something wrong with communism and socialism. It's terrible in the year of 2009 that people hang on to these ideas. They all have failed. I don't want to belong to any of these groups. But we live in America, so you are FREE to believe in what you want, no matter how sick it is. To each his (or her) own. As for me, LET FREEDOM REIGN!

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by FedoraRefugee » Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:28 pm

Havent you heard? America is now socialist. :)

<ouch, he didnt just go there :shock: >

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by dlkreations » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:25 pm

This thread should be moved to open chat.
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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by lagagnon » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:02 pm

catilley wrote:No, it is something wrong with communism and socialism. It's terrible in the year of 2009 that people hang on to these ideas. They all have failed.
Communism may have, but Socialism most certainly has not failed. In fact, the democratically socialist countries of Scandinavia are considered by the United Nations to have the best and safest lifestyle of any on earth. Their cities are safe, the people are overall happier than many other countries on earth, the governments work, there is great education and health care for all and the economies are relatively vibrant... etc etc...

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Re: Linux is a communist plot

Post by catilley » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:02 pm

lagognon, no offense to you at all, but mabye I don't understand all there is to know about socialism. When I think of socialism, Adolf Hitler is the first person that comes to my mind. There is no need for me to explain his actions, we all know them. This kind of government flashes in my mind whenever socialism is mentioned. And, as someone else has said, this country is headed that way, for whatever that means. I just enjoy living in a free democratic society. Whether it is communism or socialism, there are freedoms lost. The government rules, no matter what. If you oppose these governments, you become a political prisoner and are treated brutally. You are told what kind of profession to work in, what home to live in, what doctor to go to, etc. In Canada, where medical care is socialized, patients go to India to get treatment, because the doctors make you wait so long for some procedures. And I know that our health care system is going to head to a similar position. They are going to tell you how to live if you are being treated for certain conditions. For example, if you are being treated for lung cancer and you continue to smoke, your treatment will most likely be discontinued. If you are obese, they are going to put you on a diet and you must stick to it, or you will be cut off. And there are rumors of "death panels" to discontinue aggressive treatments and give them pain relief only if they are chronically ill. Well, I fit into the third group that I described. As you can imagine, I don't like the idea of it at all. What will be next? Putting the mentally unsound, the terminally ill, the chronically ill and so forth to "sleep"? These are the things that comes to mind when I think of communism and socialism. Are you really for this? I hope not, because anyone can easily "fall" into one of these groups by the government. And your family will get basically a "form letter" stating falsely that you had a heart attack, or some other lie, when in fact they gassed you. This is exactly the way the holocaust started. The government lying. But it got too big for them to conceal. I'm not for this at all. This thread was said to be a "joke" when it started. Well, it's not one. And yes, by living in a democracy, we all have the freedom of speech and perhaps I was wrong when I said that we shouldn't be thinking or speaking of these ideas. But I have the freedom as well to blast these sickening ideas and I will continue to do so. Long live freedom and democracy! Down with the communists and socialists! How in the hell did this topic get onto a computing forum?

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