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Discussion about newbie

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:11 pm
by ozzy24
Kaye wrote:Hello newbies,
I don't like the word newbie and find it a little insulting actually. Can't we use something more like recruit, or associate, or novice user? I would like to note that my feet are wet and I can navigate throughout Linux and accomplish tasks with a little research if any at all.

Re: Questions about Defragging or Antivirus? Look here first!

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:42 pm
by Kaye
ozzy24 wrote:
Kaye wrote:Hello newbies,
I don't like the word newbie and find it a little insulting actually. Can't we use something more like recruit, or associate, or novice user? I would like to note that my feet are wet and I can navigate throughout Linux and accomplish tasks with a little research if any at all.
No, we can't. There's nothing wrong with the word newbie. The forum is called "Newbie Questions" after all.

Re: Questions about Defragging or Antivirus? Look here first!

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:52 pm
by ozzy24
Kaye wrote:No, we can't. There's nothing wrong with the word newbie. The forum is called "Newbie Questions" after all.


Well I disagree with the title as well. Why can't they be "Questions for the Novice" or simply just "Novice Questions?"

Re: Questions about Defragging or Antivirus? Look here first!

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:57 pm
by Fred
ozzy24,

With all due respect, I think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. If the term "Newbie" upsets you, I suspect you are in for a pretty rough ride in any of the Linux forums I am familiar with.

Fred

Re: Questions about Defragging or Antivirus? Look here first!

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:31 pm
by ozzy24
Fred wrote:ozzy24,

With all due respect, I think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. If the term "Newbie" upsets you, I suspect you are in for a pretty rough ride in any of the Linux forums I am familiar with.
That's not to say it isn't insulting and quite possibly rude to have ever began with. Also it doesn't mean nobody shouldn't do anything about it either.

Re: Questions about Defragging or Antivirus? Look here first!

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:20 pm
by Husse
I'm not a native English speaker (but my English is pretty good as reading this forum will tell you)
Newbie is simply the term for someone who is new - noob is another one but that's far more slang and possibly a bit insulting (not sure)

Re: Questions about Defragging or Antivirus? Look here first!

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:24 pm
by Kaye
Husse wrote:I'm not a native English speaker (but my English is pretty good as reading this forum will tell you)
Newbie is simply the term for someone who is new - noob is another one but that's far more slang and possibly a bit insulting (not sure)
This is correct. I must say I agree with Fred also.

Political correctness is getting more than a little out of control.

Re: Questions about Defragging or Antivirus? Look here first!

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:27 pm
by Husse
Political correctness is getting more than a little out of control.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Questions about Defragging or Antivirus? Look here first!

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:33 am
by ozzy24
Kaye wrote:noob is another one but that's far more slang and possibly a bit insulting
Nicely put. I think I'm going to drop this whole thing. Just interested in some opinions that's all.

Re: Discussion about newbie

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:05 pm
by Husse
I split off the posts about the linguistic value of newbie into a new post and moved it to the general chat section

Re: Discussion about newbie

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:15 am
by clem
Hi,

I was asked by email to intervene on this. Having said that, I see nothing wrong with the word "newbie" myself. At most, it's "cheeky"? but certainly not insulting.

I would have an issue if people started to be elitist and if some people were rejected from the community as a result. This is not the case however and I have no problem with the word itself as long as it's not used as an insult.

I consider myself a "n00b" when it comes to many things and I certainly don't have any issue with it.

Finally, I'll just underline the fact that this "Newbie questions" forum describes itself with the sentence: "All gurus once were newbies". So that clearly emphasises the fact that we're talking about the temporary lack of experience novice users have and that in no way connotes that they would be "stupid", or anything insulting.

Clem.

Re: Discussion about newbie

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:47 am
by FedoraRefugee
Most of us would probably consider ourselves noobs. :D Beware a linux user who stylizes himself a "guru!" It is okay for others to label someone as such, but to label yourself? Hmmm... :roll:

Re: Discussion about newbie

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:57 am
by mcash454
If we eliminate the 'newbie' forum, I won't be able to answer any questions! I figure that if the question isn't in the 'newbie' forum, then I'm completely unqualified to help :D

Re: Discussion about newbie

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:37 pm
by mintnoob
ozzy24 wrote:
Kaye wrote:Hello newbies,
I don't like the word newbie and find it a little insulting actually.
Well at least it's better than "Idiot's Guide"!

(And btw, I prefer "noob.") ;)

Re: Discussion about newbie

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:52 pm
by nukm
New Forum - "The Offended"

Post all your real or imagined offences whilst experiencing a delightful lavender scent and the soothing music of Yanni as you await a gentle, discreet apology, all the while stuffing yourself with dainty cucumber finger sandwiches and....

Well, that was definitely a TIA moment - I'm ok now. :oops:

Re: Discussion about newbie

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:41 am
by Honayo
I'm a newbie to this forum and proud of it.
Now I start the 12 Step Program to rid myself of the affliction... Enter........ Newbies Anonymous and we're looking for members. :wink:

Re: Discussion about newbie

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:07 am
by XidCat
We could go completely PC and have a Mint Challenged forum....

Re: Discussion about newbie

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:03 am
by Kaye
XidCat wrote:We could go completely PC and have a Mint Challenged forum....
"Mintally Challenged" :lol:

Re: Discussion about newbie

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:17 am
by Oscar799
Kaye wrote:
XidCat wrote:We could go completely PC and have a Mint Challenged forum....
"Mintally Challenged" :lol:
:D :D

Re: Discussion about newbie

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:38 am
by markcynt
Kaye wrote:"Mintally Challenged" :lol:
Hahaha! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I wonder if that would be more acceptable than newbie. :mrgreen: