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What would stop you from using windows?

Post by Forthright » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:42 am

For those of you who either dual boot or use windows in a VM:

I'm curious as to what would stop you from using windows?

Currently, I use office, and need it for my work ( Specifically: Word, Excel, Powerpoint ). I also use adobe creative suites.

Unfortunately, both open office and Gimp aren't there yet.

Also, office 2010 is still unfortunately rated as garbage on wines appDB.

If I could run office and photoshop seemlessly on linux I would no longer use windows.

What would it take for you?
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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by randomizer » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:44 am

At home, not sure. At work, a non-windows-based CRM system.

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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by spider2097 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:51 am

(At the risk of annoying pretty much everyone....)

If iTunes was developed to run natively I could drop Windows pretty much immediately.

Well, that and increased Xbox support (for streaming media from PC to TV). Native mobile phone support would be a nice touch too. These last two are a bit odd that they don't play nice with Linux since the Xbox 360 embedded OS is Linux based and Android is a Linux distro :shock:

But, all that aside, the biggest one for me would be iTunes.

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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by mads » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:34 am

Nothing. I think Windows 7 is a very good operative system, so it was Windows XP.
Competition makes both Windows and Linux better, and diversity gives people more
choices.

Windows and Linux are different, and I simply love them both. Thanks to people behind
both projects, dictators in middle east are gone, children in Indian villages have access
to computers, and it has become very difficult if not impossible to start a World War III.

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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by d00med » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:19 am

Would delete my Windows partition today if there was full support for Blu-ray in Linux. Be it freeware or shareware.

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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by ThistleWeb » Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:28 am

You can take my Windows ME from my cold dead *down Charlton down*.....erm sorry about that, carry on. :lol:
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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by The-Wizard » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:17 pm

only my laptop still has windozzz i would willing wipe the drive and install 32 bit mint 10, IF some bright spark [well a very clever one] can come up with an alternative to windows live, which would allow audio/ vidieo conferencing across the msm network
The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place.

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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by rdonnelly » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:39 pm

An "Easy" to use accounting program with payroll and tax update.
A refrigerant tracking program that runs in Linux.
An OBDII program that could interface with my Sprinter Van.
Plus a few other pieces of Hardware that require windoze.
Thank God for The Pirate Bay to supply me with open source windoze :twisted:
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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by hemimaniac » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:51 pm

ya rdonnelly the OBDII is also a rough one for me im just lucky i still have a genisis

this looks promising though OBDII in Linux
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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by Habitual » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:00 pm

Not a Damn thing.
V iruses
I ntruders
S pyware
T rojans
A dware

No thanks, I gave at the office.

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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by DrHu » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:24 pm

Forthright wrote:For those of you who either dual boot or use windows in a VM:
I'm curious as to what would stop you from using windows?
Currently, I use office, and need it for my work ( Specifically: Word, Excel, Powerpoint ). I also use adobe creative suites.
Unfortunately, both open office and Gimp aren't there yet.
..I'm curious as to what would stop you from using windows?
Nothing apparently!
  • Sometimes it is forced
    --company policy or product mix, eg a requirement to submit documents with a Microsoft word suite
  • Sometimes it is inertia
    --I can't be bothered working with any alternatives, Linux or Apple
    --I need to see my anti-virus and anti-spyware programs running
    --I am used to this system
    --it doesn't cost me at all (office pays for it) or it doesn't cost me too much,
    I don't have a clue what it is really costing..
  • Sometimes it is a lack of information
    --no-one told me I could do the same thing, run similar applications without buying Microsoft office or Adobe products..
  • Sometimes it is a lack of belief
    --I can't believe that a package that costs me 1000.00 dollars can be matched by something that is free, such as OpenOffice or Gimp or other OSS products, such as draftsight (cad program)..
..Unfortunately, both open office and Gimp aren't there yet
Of course they are there (yet!), you just don't know it

Perhaps you suffer from some of the symptoms that prevent you from seeing that fact.
  • In making a comparison of application or OS software..
  • Different doesn't mean less able
  • Exactly the same doesn't mean the same as or the best available..
--best examples being Linux and Apple OSX
  • Not the same as windows
    --best available is a relative term..
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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by kvv » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:25 pm

Habitual wrote:Not a Damn thing.
V iruses
I ntruders
S pyware
T rojans
A dware

No thanks, I gave at the office.
Windows Vista has a number of annoying problems. The stuff you mentioned have not been a problem for me and most other users though. I got infected by 1 spyware and 1 virus in my last 7 of using vista/xp. And there were quick hacks available online that removed them instantly.
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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by tdockery97 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:54 pm

Actually, I just stopped using Windows in March. After updating to Wine 1.3, my one remaining Windows app (Convertxtodvd) works like a champ using Wine. So MS has gone bye bye. :mrgreen:
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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by hemimaniac » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:35 pm

tdockery97 wrote:Actually, I just stopped using Windows in March. After updating to Wine 1.3, my one remaining Windows app (Convertxtodvd) works like a champ using Wine. So MS has gone bye bye. :mrgreen:
There you go again on that poisoning peeps :P :P
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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by rdonnelly » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:01 pm

hemimaniac wrote:ya rdonnelly the OBDII is also a rough one for me im just lucky i still have a genisis

this looks promising though OBDII in Linux
Thanks, I will have to give that scanner a whirl some time.

I hardly ever boot native windoze, 99% of the time I am running it from VirtualBox, that way Linux can protect windoze from itself. :mrgreen:
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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by Pilosopong Tasyo » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:08 pm

Once I'm able to comfortably use Scribus and Inkscape (replacements to PageMaker and CorelDraw, respectively), then my migration from Windows to Linux would be complete.
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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by willie42 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:14 pm

I only use Windows at work. So if they would change to all all Linux/Unix operating systems then I would be Windows free. :mrgreen: :P :lol:
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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by colyn » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:22 pm

willie42 wrote:I only use Windows at work. So if they would change to all all Linux/Unix operating systems then I would be Windows free. :mrgreen: :P :lol:
As would I..

I have to use it at work but at home it is Linux all the way...

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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by OldManHook » Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:21 am

Don't know what you want Gimp or OOo to do Works good here even on windows :D
As for I-Tunes :?: Have Phone and Pod not the best in Linux,but still work 8)
The only reason i still have Windows is on the farm we only have Dial-Up Internet',Linux and dial up don't seem to work well and the ISP's don't help with Windows Software :(
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Re: What would stop you from using windows?

Post by Forthright » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:56 am

DrHu wrote:
Forthright wrote:..Unfortunately, both open office and Gimp aren't there yet
Of course they are there (yet!), you just don't know it
That's presumptuous. I run a small Corporate Image company and pay a small fortune in licence fees. (around $2-3 thousand a year on average).

I can assure you, I do not pay Adobe and Microsoft out of some misguided sense of charity :P

I am proficient in gimp (and inkscape) as well as a Linux and FOSS enthusiast and developer for many many years now. If gimp and OO met my needs, I would use them. I check back regularly. They are improving, but simply put; as long as my clients, printing houses and designers are using MS Office and Adobe CS I need a level of interoperability which I can rely on. This is not the case, just look at some of the bugs
DrHu wrote:Perhaps you suffer from some of the symptoms that prevent you from seeing that fact.
I certainly do not suffer from your "symptoms" DrHu and I don't like these accusatory speculations. Please stop it.

Finally, "that fact" you refer to is subjective. ie. NOT a fact at all. I was referring to my own needs (previous sentence) when I said "open office and Gimp aren't there yet."
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