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Well, that didn’t take long. I had thought that after Attachmate bought Novell it would be keeping its open-source teams working. Indeed, Attachmate CEO Jeff Hawn had told me that, “Business will operate as usual.” While Attachmate will be keeping SUSE Linux as a spin-off company, Mono, the open-source implementation of Windows’ .NET, is being shut down
and there have been hundreds of additional Novell layoffs. So much for business as usual. […]
Mono, since its implementation of a proprietary Microsoft software stack and C# language, has always had its enemies in open-source circles. Frankly, I didn’t like some of .NET’s licensing
; I wasn’t comfortable with how close it brought open-source programming to Microsoft
; and, having nothing to with software development politics or licensing, I didn’t like that Mono would forever be trying to catch up with its proprietary big-brother .NET.
On the other hand, there have been several great programs written in Mono. As far as I’m concerned, Banshee
is the best open-source media player out there.
No, it is not. Banshee is ugly and unpractical.
But will Mono continue? I’m sure it will in one form or another. […]
Will it continue to be an important software development environment is another question entirely. I fear the answer is no. While some programs, such as Banshee and the F-Spot
photo manager, will continue on, it’s hard for me to see developers choosing to start significant new projects in Mono.
Well, F-Spot is another unnecessary piece of software.
Given the way GNOME has embraced Mono (Tomboy since GNOME 2.16, etc.), I can only wish good luck to the KDE project!
I just wanted to chime in, that no matter how 'kewl' gnome 3 might be,,and thats a HUGE might ( I looked initially, frustratingly , trying to find out why there was NO minimize widget!; yeah , not funny ), that no way
am I ever going to use it, because somehow the gnome team with their collective heads into all things novel no matter what RMS and other have said about mono, thinks its funny to ignore threats that everyone else sees clearly.
That is why I too, will never use gnome again ( until they change their ways ), and embrace kde and E17 and others. Im not a masochist on any level. I have been warning about the mono threat for ages, and it took this to get anywhere is sad.
Is mint stilll thumbing its nose at common sense by including mint, or has the fog been lifted and I can finally try it ?
If not, sabayon here I come, because at least nothing is FORCED on me there, and yes , using the word force is accurate
Even ubuntu manager was it , said that using mono is a unnecessary threat, so why its still IN ubuntu, is a total mystery and I hopt Mint came to its senses along with Fedora etal.
I dont like things bad for me, forced on me, do you ?
We know mono is bad, has been bad, and we know this at least in part thanks to the tireless work of groklaw.
Im not a non developer, but closer to it than not, so to say a non developer will not care about this is ludicrous . I care about linux, therefore I 'care' what it does,
and when it ignores the obvious, that is bad for it, against much concrete evidence to the contrary, it matters for all of us.
THe 'app' arguement is mostly MOOT now, because gnote is easily replaces tomboy ( ask fedora) and other apps replace all other mono ones ( again: see fedora , etc.) , so
there is NO longer an excuse to keep mono; the risk is no longer viable; just ask Groklaw && RMS again, if you doubt there is any risk.
There is no longer any reason to make us DEPEND on mono by including it by default, and those important to linux, have made it clear why we should not