Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470? [Resolved]
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Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470? [Resolved]
Just to uninstall it? Should I ignore this "update"?
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Re: Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470
Why are you wanting to uninstall it?
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Re: Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470
I haven't installed it yet! I'd like to avoid potential problems with graphics card drivers.
"This is a transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470, and can be safely removed after the installation is complete."
So I'm wondering what is the point to installing it? Isn't installing it inviting an issue?
"This is a transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470, and can be safely removed after the installation is complete."
So I'm wondering what is the point to installing it? Isn't installing it inviting an issue?
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Re: Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470
If you are seeing the update in Update Manager, that means you already have something installed on your computer which sees that package as a necessary update. If you want help with understanding this, please open the System Reports app and click the System Information tab on the left. Your computer's information should come up in the right pane. Then click Copy, and paste the results into a reply window here so we can see how Linux Mint views your hardware. Without that information, none of us will have any idea why that package is being offered as an update.Amii_Leigh wrote: ⤴Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:02 amSo I'm wondering what is the point to installing it? Isn't installing it inviting an issue?
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Re: Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470
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This update affects the following installed packages:
• libnvidia-cfg1-460
• libnvidia-cfg1-470
• libnvidia-common-460
• libnvidia-common-470
• libnvidia-compute-460
• libnvidia-compute-460:i386
• libnvidia-compute-470
• libnvidia-compute-470:i386
• libnvidia-decode-460
• libnvidia-decode-460:i386
• libnvidia-decode-470
• libnvidia-decode-470:i386
• libnvidia-encode-460
• libnvidia-encode-460:i386
• libnvidia-encode-470
• libnvidia-encode-470:i386
• libnvidia-extra-460
• libnvidia-extra-470
• libnvidia-fbc1-460
• libnvidia-fbc1-460:i386
• libnvidia-fbc1-470
• libnvidia-fbc1-470:i386
• libnvidia-gl-460
• libnvidia-gl-460:i386
• libnvidia-gl-470
• libnvidia-gl-470:i386
• libnvidia-ifr1-460
• libnvidia-ifr1-460:i386
• libnvidia-ifr1-470
• libnvidia-ifr1-470:i386
• nvidia-compute-utils-460
• nvidia-compute-utils-470
• nvidia-dkms-460
• nvidia-dkms-470
• nvidia-driver-460
• nvidia-driver-470
• nvidia-kernel-common-460
• nvidia-kernel-common-470
• nvidia-kernel-source-460
• nvidia-kernel-source-470
• nvidia-utils-460
• nvidia-utils-470
• xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-460
• xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-470
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nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 (470.161.03-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) bionic; urgency=medium
* New upstream release (LP: #1997087).
-- Alberto Milone <alberto.milone@canonical.com> Tue, 22 Nov 2022 17:04:57 +0000
nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 (470.141.03-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) bionic; urgency=medium
* New upstream release (LP: #1982501).
* debian/additional_card_ids:
- Add the missing 1EB8 ID.
-- Alberto Milone <alberto.milone@canonical.com> Fri, 29 Jul 2022 09:21:54 +0000
nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 (470.129.06-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) bionic; urgency=medium
* New upstream release (LP: #1973300).
-- Alberto Milone <alberto.milone@canonical.com> Mon, 16 May 2022 10:27:52 +0000
nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 (470.103.01-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) bionic; urgency=medium
* New upstream release (LP: #1957790).
* debian/templates/control.in:
- Add the missing transitional packages for the
460 series.
-- Alberto Milone <alberto.milone@canonical.com> Fri, 28 Jan 2022 18:14:30 +0100
nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 (470.86-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) bionic; urgency=medium
* New upstream release (LP: #1950665):
- Fixed a regression which prevented DisplayPort and HDMI 2.1
variable refresh rate (VRR) G-SYNC Compatible monitors from
functioning correctly in variable refresh rate mode, resulting
in issues such as flickering.
-- Alberto Milone <alberto.milone@canonical.com> Thu, 11 Nov 2021 17:13:54 +0100
nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 (470.82.00-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) bionic; urgency=medium
* New upstream release (LP: #1948025):
- Fixed a bug that can cause a kernel crash in SLI Mosaic
configurations.
- Added support for the EGL_NV_robustness_video_memory_purge.
[ Kai-Heng Feng ]
* debian/71-nvidia.rules:
- Enable runtime PM after driver is bound (LP: #1949026).
-- Alberto Milone <alberto.milone@canonical.com> Tue, 26 Oct 2021 15:44:51 +0200
nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 (470.74-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) bionic; urgency=medium
* New upstream release (LP: #1944955):
- Updated the nvidia-drm kernel module for compatibility with the
removal of the DRIVER_PRIME flag in recent Linux kernel
versions.
- Updated nvidia-bug-report.sh to search the systemd journal for
gdm-x-session logs.
- Fixed a bug that could prevent nvidia-xconfig from disabling
the X Composite extension on version 1.20 of the X.org X
server.
- Fixed a build failure, "too many arguments to function
'get_user_pages'", when building the NVIDIA kernel module for
Linux kernel v4.4.168.
- Fixed a build failure, "implicit declaration of function
do_gettimeofday", when building the NVIDIA kernel module for
Linux kernel 5.0 release candidates.
-- Alberto Milone <alberto.milone@canonical.com> Fri, 24 Sep 2021 12:25:17 +0200
nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 (470.63.01-0ubuntu0.18.04.2) bionic; urgency=medium
* debian/nvidia_supported,
debian/rules:
debian/pm-aliases-gen
- Include the actual changes that were only mentioned in the changelog for
the previous release (LP: #1939673).
-- Alberto Milone <alberto.milone@canonical.com> Tue, 31 Aug 2021 11:35:34 +0200
nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 (470.63.01-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) bionic; urgency=medium
* New upstream release (LP: #1939673):
- Added support for the following GPUs:
NVIDIA RTX A2000
- Fixed a Vulkan performance regression that affected rFactor2.
* debian/nvidia_supported,
debian/rules:
- Use the json database file to generate the modaliases.
- Fix aliases generation.
We were not matching some of the aliases because of some missing
zeroes in the subdevice and subvendor ids.
* debian/pm-aliases-gen:
- Fix aliases generation for runtimepm.
We were not matching some of the aliases because of some missing
zeroes in the subdevice and subvendor ids.
-- Alberto Milone <alberto.milone@canonical.com> Thu, 12 Aug 2021 12:57:30 +0200
nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 (470.57.02-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) bionic; urgency=medium
* Initial release.
* Replace the 465 series (LP: #1933980).
-- Alberto Milone <alberto.milone@canonical.com> Mon, 12 Jul 2021 12:13:20 +0200
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Re: Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470
Sorry to be so much trouble about this. I just didn't understand the necessity.
नमस्ते = Namaste
I honor the place in you in which the entire universe dwells.
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When you are in that place in you, and I am in that place in me, we are one.
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Re: Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470
You did not post the information I requested. I asked for your System Information.Amii_Leigh wrote: ⤴Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:19 pm Sorry to be so much trouble about this. I just didn't understand the necessity.
What you did post does not say anything about being a transitional package. It says it is an updated driver package.
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nvidia-graphics-drivers-470 (470.161.03-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) bionic; urgency=medium
* New upstream release (LP: #1997087).
-- Alberto Milone <alberto.milone@canonical.com> Tue, 22 Nov 2022 17:04:57 +0000
Nvidia updates their drivers, but those files are not in packages which you can use on Linux Mint. The Canonical (Ubuntu) developers take the files from Nvidia and put them in packages so you can get updated drivers through the package management (.deb) system. The Driver Manager and Update Manager GUIs use the .deb package update system.
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Re: Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470
System Information:
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Re: Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470
Please scroll back to the post where I asked for System Information. You will notice I gave specific directions to get that information. I typed:
"Please open the System Reports app and click the System Information tab on the left. Your computer's information should come up in the right pane. Then click Copy, and paste the results into a reply window here so we can see how Linux Mint views your hardware."
If you prefer to use the terminal, please provide the output of
inxi -Fxxxrz
. What you posted does not have information about how Linux Mint sees your hardware.A woman typing on a laptop with LM20.3 Cinnamon.
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Re: Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470
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Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic
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v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 6 serial: <filter>
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3: 1880 4: 2065
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Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: nvidia
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050/PCIe/SSE2
v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 470.141.03 direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio
vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0
chip ID: 8086:1c20
Device-2: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio vendor: eVga.com.
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0fb9
Device-3: Creative Labs EMU10k1 [Sound Blaster Live! Series]
driver: snd_emu10k1 v: kernel bus ID: 06:01.0 chip ID: 1102:0002
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-135-generic
Network:
Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network vendor: Hewlett-Packard
driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: f040 bus ID: 00:19.0 chip ID: 8086:1502
IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Device-2: Ralink RT5370 Wireless Adapter type: USB driver: rt2800usb
bus ID: 1-1.2:3 chip ID: 148f:5370 serial: <filter>
IF: wlx000ce7014af0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 1.59 TiB used: 481.99 GiB (29.6%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST3500418AS size: 465.76 GiB
speed: 3.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> rev: HP34 scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Seagate model: ST3500312CS size: 465.76 GiB
speed: 3.0 Gb/s rotation: 5900 rpm serial: <filter> rev: CA12 scheme: MBR
ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Hitachi model: HDS721050CLA662 size: 465.76 GiB
speed: 3.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> rev: A41A
ID-4: /dev/sdd type: USB model: General USB Flash Disk size: 231.19 GiB
serial: <filter> rev: 1100 scheme: MBR
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 450.00 GiB used: 310.70 GiB (69.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
ID-2: swap-1 size: 7.89 GiB used: 1.24 GiB (15.7%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 39.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 37 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 30%
Repos:
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1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu bionic main
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6: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ bionic partner
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Info:
Processes: 284 Uptime: 2d 4h 25m Memory: 7.73 GiB used: 2.93 GiB (37.9%)
Init: systemd v: 237 runlevel: 5 default: 2 Compilers: gcc: 7.5.0 alt: 5/7
Shell: bash v: 4.4.20 running in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.0.32
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Re: Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470
Yes, thank you. That is very helpful.
My understanding of how Ubuntu creates the Nvidia driver packages is they have them set up so the latest version available is the one to which your system is updated. When a newer version comes out and, in essence, "replaces" the older version, they create what are known as transitional packages. The package transits from the older version to the newer version.
In your case, your system has a GPU which is still receiving support and updates from Nividia.
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Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050] vendor: eVga.com. driver: nvidia
v: 470.141.03 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1c81
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: nvidia
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050/PCIe/SSE2
v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 470.141.03 direct render: Yes
However, if you check the Nvidia website, your computer's GPU can use the latest 500 series drivers. The Nvidia-515 is available and in the near future the Nvidia-525 will also be available through Ubuntu's package management system.
You can stay with the Nvidia-470 series if you want, but most people prefer to use the latest drivers. They would use the "pass through" packages so they receive the newer driver versions through the update system.
There are some GPUs for which the Nvidia-470 is the last in the line and they can not use the 500 series drivers so the Nvidia-470 will continue to remain available in the package management system.
In the past, there was the Nvidia-440 driver which was replaced by the Nvidia-450 driver. When the Nvidia-450 came out, the Nvidia-440 was not longer needed because that driver was not the last one for any GPU model. Therefore the Nvidia-440 package became a pass-through to the Nvidia-450.
So pass-through packages are a bridge between the old and new when your system is able to use the newer one.
However, it appears you have an active PPA for graphics drivers? I do not know how that might relate to what you posted earlier. You really should only use one method for updating drivers and not mix using both a PPA and the package management system.
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Repos:
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/graphics-drivers-ppa-bionic.list
1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu bionic main
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Re: Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470
So, in your opinion, I should disable/uninstall that PPA? I don't remember the reason I installed it in the first place.
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Re: Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470
It's my understanding people use that PPA to get the newest Nvidia drivers before they are released in Driver Manager/Update Manager. If you do not recall ever using it, then there is no reason to have it.Amii_Leigh wrote: ⤴Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:46 pm So, in your opinion, I should disable/uninstall that PPA? I don't remember the reason I installed it in the first place.
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Re: Why install transitional package for nvidia-kernel-common-470? [Resolved]
Thank you for your kindness and assistance!
नमस्ते = Namaste
I honor the place in you in which the entire universe dwells.
I honor the place in you in which is of love, of truth, of light, and of peace.
When you are in that place in you, and I am in that place in me, we are one.
I honor the place in you in which the entire universe dwells.
I honor the place in you in which is of love, of truth, of light, and of peace.
When you are in that place in you, and I am in that place in me, we are one.