<SOLVED> 17.3 MATE inappropriate display resolution

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<SOLVED> 17.3 MATE inappropriate display resolution

Post by Spinner912 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:59 am

This issue is part one of a two part issue. After a long process, problems with xserver, nvidia settings, and other issues, were solved. (See viewtopic.php?f=60&t=246039&start=40#p1322568). But a second problem has arisen forcing me to revert, on a separate HDD, to MATE 17.3 from the "repaired" MATE 18.1 (on another HDD). As can be seen from the above link, 18.1 is now working perfectly in all aspects except one. A known bug in 18.1 prevents selecting VPN, a requirement for the device in question.

The resulting problem is that I am now forced to revert to 17.3 in order to be able to select VPN, BUT 17.3 suffers a similar problem to that which existed with 18.1. It operates perfectly except the maximum resolution I can obtain from my Samsung S22A300B 21.5" monitor is 1248x1024. The monitor is not recognised in 17.3 so that is some kind of default value.

There is no chance of adjusting for a higher 1920x1080 resolution, optimum for this monitor, nor is there an Nvidia X Server settings.

I have selected nvidia legacy driver 304, but it does not appear to be loading. (In 18.1 legacy driver 304 solves all problems).

The same fix as for the problem in 18.1 (see link above) cannot be activated in 17.3 as xserver-xorg-legacy does not seem to be available (except for S3 GPU), and there seems to be no applet for Nvidia Xserver settings available.

Overall problem; 18.1 runs perfectly but the required VPN cannot be installed in that system (a known bug). 17.3 runs well, but with a very annoying and slightly distorted maximum resolution.

Any thoughts on how the graphics problem in 17.3 causing this dilemma can be solved?
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Re: 17.3 MATE inappropriate display resolution

Post by Spinner912 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:00 pm

Additional information:

xxxxx-desktop ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System: Host: xxxxx-desktop Kernel: 3.19.0-32-generic i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.8.2)
Desktop: MATE 1.12.0 (Gtk 3.10.8~8+qiana)
Distro: Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa
Machine: Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P5VD2-X v: 1.XX
Bios: Phoenix v: ASUS P5VD2-X 0308 date: 03/19/2007
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 4400 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 7999
clock speeds: max: 2000 MHz 1: 1600 MHz 2: 1200 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GT215 [GeForce GT 240] bus-ID: 02:00.0
Display Server: X.Org 1.15.1 drivers: vesa (unloaded: fbdev)
Resolution: 1280x1024@0.0hz
GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits)
GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.1.3 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card-1 VIA VT8237A/VT8251 HDA Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 80:01.0
Card-2 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 02:00.1
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.19.0-32-generic
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL-8110SC/8169SC Gigabit Ethernet
driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 8000 bus-ID: 04:07.0
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Card-2: ASUSTek USB-N13 802.11n Network Adapter (rev. A1) [Ralink RT3072]
usb-ID: 005-005
IF: N/A state: N/A mac: N/A
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1720.4GB (6.5% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST1000DM010 size: 1000.2GB
ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ST3400620AS size: 400.1GB
ID-3: /dev/sdc model: ST3320620A size: 320.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 359G used: 97G (29%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1
ID-2: swap-1 size: 9.09GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 32.0C mobo: 38.0C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 932 psu: 1917 sys-1: 0
Info: Processes: 161 Uptime: 3 min Memory: 401.8/2708.0MB
Init: Upstart runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.8.4
Client: Shell (bash 4.3.111) inxi: 2.2.28
xxxxx-desktop ~ $

Perhaps this sheds some light on things. It seems to me that, once again, there is no nvidia driver loaded, despite having one selected.

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Re: 17.3 MATE inappropriate display resolution

Post by phd21 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:32 pm

Hi "Spinner912",

Whether you are correct about the video card driver number being "Nvidia-304" or not, then this may help.

When I looked this up (Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GT215 [GeForce GT 240]) It might be "Nvidia-340".
Nvidia Driver look up - For you -> GeForce 200 series, GT 240, Linux
http://www.geforce.com/drivers

Also, you have a 32-bit Linux Mint installed, but it looks like your CPU is 64-bit?
https://ark.intel.com/products/29753/In ... 00-MHz-FSB
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 4400 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3)
What do the "flags" mean? lm=64bit
https://unix.stackexchange.com/question ... uinfo-mean


NVIDIA: how to install the latest video card drivers
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/12
To install this using the PPA method, open a console terminal, type in, or copy & paste, each line below one by one:

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa

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sudo apt-get update
If the video card driver number is Nvidia 340, then use this

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sudo apt-get install nvidia-340
or, if you are sure the video card driver number is Nvidia 304, then use this

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sudo apt-get install nvidia-304

...
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Re: 17.3 MATE inappropriate display resolution

Post by Spinner912 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:51 am

64-bit, eh? This machine was sold to me at the outset as a 32-bit machine. I have never queried it and it has operated as a 32-bit system ever since. Perhaps at the next upgrade I will try 64-bit. Thank you.

With regard to driver version =304 or =340; I have installed both a various times with absolutely no change to the situation. I think the problem is that for some reason, nvidia drivers are simply not being installed, no matter how I go about trying to install them. I get all the right signs at installation, but a check right after rebooting fails to show an installed nvidia driver.

Whereas I will certainly try your suggestion (it has already been tried, but possibly under slightly different circumstances), I don't really expect any change whatsoever.

As I recall I reverted to -304 following the advice for the solved known bug in 18.1 which described a similar problem to that which I am experiencing in 17.3. It advised to go back to a "legacy" driver which -304 is. But that fix required the installation of xserver-xorg-legacy which exists for 18.1 but not for 17.3. Coupled with that, there was an applet for nvidia x server settings included in a very recent update for 18.1. No such applet exists for 17.3 that I can locate.

Be that as it may, I will once again run the -340 driver and see what happens.

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Re: 17.3 MATE inappropriate display resolution

Post by phd21 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:00 am

Hi "Spinner912",

You can create a bootable DVD or USB flash drive stick of a 64-bit edition and version of Linux Mint to see if it boots up, if it does, then your computer can use a 64-bit version.

Definitely try the driver PPA with the 340 driver. I think there is an Nvidia-Settings applet in the "Synaptic Package Manager (SPM)", search for "Nvidia".

Hope this helps ...
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Re: 17.3 MATE inappropriate display resolution

Post by Spinner912 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:40 am

I followed the advice to install nvidia-340 from the ppa repository as suggested. Still no nvidia driver is installed. The only difference between running with the -304 driver and the -340 driver is that with the -340 driver it boots into a black screen and hangs. It did not when using -304 even there was no evidence that it was even installed. Booting with -340 required going back to the Grub menu list and inserting "nomodeset".

For convenience I would like to revert back to -304 again, but I will await further advice before doing that in case there is another suggestion.

But why is there no evidence of an nvidia driver being installed and yet there is a slight change of effects when changing the "installed" driver?

As a foot note, a strange message appeared at the end of the installation dialogue for the -340 driver. It stated:

Loading new nvidia-340-340.102 DKMS files...
First Installation: checking all kernels...
Building only for 3.19.0-32-generic
Building for architecture i686
Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the
kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed.

Further thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: 17.3 MATE inappropriate display resolution

Post by phd21 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:15 am

Hi "Spinner912",

If you boot to a blank screen, then reboot to advanced recovery option, when the menu appears, choose console terminal prompt, login, and type in:

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sudo apt-get purge nvidia*

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reboot
After a little bit of time your system will reboot.

Then you can run using the default video drivers, or install another Nvidia video driver

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sudo apt-get install nvidia-304
That is strange that the Nvidia 340 driver is not loading, perhaps updating to a newer Linux kernel might help, then retry installing the driver.

If you can get another newer Nvidia video card, I would highly recommend doing that; Some are relatively low cost on Amazon.com and Ebay, but work well.

EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti SC GAMING, 4GB GDDR5, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC) Graphics Card
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Sup ... CCW06&th=1
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Re: 17.3 MATE inappropriate display resolution

Post by Spinner912 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:39 pm

This is very confusing,

Yesterday, after installing nvidia-340 driver as you suggested using the method you suggested, bootup resulted in a black screen with everything hung. I went back to Grub and edited the script for Mint 17.3 by adding nomodeset and things booted just fine.

This morning, first boot, straight into Mint. No problems. No nvidia driver installed either!

How do I actually MAKE the thing install an nvidia driver - any nvidia driver?

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Re: 17.3 MATE inappropriate display resolution

Post by GlennD » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:23 pm

phd21 wrote:Hi "Spinner912",

Whether you are correct about the video card driver number being "Nvidia-304" or not, then this may help.

When I looked this up (Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GT215 [GeForce GT 240]) It might be "Nvidia-340".
Nvidia Driver look up - For you -> GeForce 200 series, GT 240, Linux
http://www.geforce.com/drivers

Also, you have a 32-bit Linux Mint installed, but it looks like your CPU is 64-bit?
https://ark.intel.com/products/29753/In ... 00-MHz-FSB
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 4400 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3)
What do the "flags" mean? lm=64bit
https://unix.stackexchange.com/question ... uinfo-mean


NVIDIA: how to install the latest video card drivers
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/12
To install this using the PPA method, open a console terminal, type in, or copy & paste, each line below one by one:

Code: Select all

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa

Code: Select all

sudo apt-get update
If the video card driver number is Nvidia 340, then use this

Code: Select all

sudo apt-get install nvidia-340
or, if you are sure the video card driver number is Nvidia 304, then use this

Code: Select all

sudo apt-get install nvidia-304

...
Just wanted to comment that I have had similar issues running Linux Mint 17.1 Qiana Cinnamon 64-bit with an Nvidia GeForce 8400 video card. I use a 26" AWA TV screen for display. Both the Nouveau driver and the Nvidia 340 driver insist the screen is a 19" Mitac and won't allow resolution greater than 1440 X 900, which looks fuzzy! But I loaded the legacy Nvidia 304 driver after reading this posting, and now I have a 1920 X1080 display available and the X-server settings adjustments which weren't previously available. On that basis, I don't think the issue is a 32-bit vs. 64-bit problem, or a problem restricted to MATE, as I'm using Cinnamon.

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Re: 17.3 MATE inappropriate display resolution

Post by Spinner912 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:45 pm

GlennD: Thank you for the response. Yes the driver selected is -304. The reason for that was because in Mint 18.1 which I now have running but cannot use (the VPN problem), the method was to install an nvidia legacy driver which -304 is. But unfortunately, there is no nvidia-xorg-legacy available for 17.3, nor is there a new nvidia-settings applet. I have tried -340 also, and exactly the same results, which is, put simply, no matter what I do, I cannot load an nvidia driver, no matter which one I select. It simply will not happen.

Further, I have tried one or two alternative kernels, and they also, will not load. They install, but they will not load.

I have also tried a GT730 card. Same deal exactly.

Perhaps I just have a "Google" machine, i.e. I am locked in with no possibility of changing anything at system level????

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