Nvidia will never allow Nouveau fully operational

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Nvidia will never allow Nouveau fully operational

Post by mikebackon » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:59 am

A lot of people on this sub (and on the Internet in general) hope that at some point Nvidia will make it possible for Nouveau to catch up with proprietary driver. It won't, ever.

Nvidia has 2 lines of GPUs: consumer Geforce and professional Quadro. Quadro is much more expensive, but has more features. The problem is that chips inside them are the same or at least very similar. The main reason why Geforces lacks these features is because they are blocked in card's software. If somebody breaks firmware signing process, everybody will be able to hack their cheap Geforces with Quadro firmware. The cash bag of Quadro would lose any reason to exist. Nvidia will do anything to stop that and .01% of their customers who are using Linux and want libre drivers are laughably worthless in comparison.

Firmwares will be signed, drivers will be closed source and any FOSS alternatives will be toys. Stop dreaming, don't feed their business model, never buy Nvidia.

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Re: Nvidia will never allow Nouveau fully operational

Post by Hoser Rob » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:12 am

You do realize that not every Linux user is a FOSS nut?

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Re: Nvidia will never allow Nouveau fully operational

Post by Pjotr » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:17 am

Nvidia's non-free Linux drivers are usually of high quality, and they're being maintained for a relatively long time. I like that: Nvidia clearly takes Linux seriously.

Note that the deliberate downgrading of chipsets in cheaper editions is a common business practice. It's not Nvidia-specific.
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Re: Nvidia will never allow Nouveau fully operational

Post by catweazel » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:18 am

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Re: Nvidia will never allow Nouveau fully operational

Post by Pjotr » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:50 am

catweazel wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:18 am
Not only but also...
Good to hear from you, old magician! You had some of us worried a bit about your long absence. :)
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Re: Nvidia will never allow Nouveau fully operational

Post by catweazel » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:55 am

Pjotr wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:50 am
catweazel wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:18 am
Not only but also...
Good to hear from you, old magician! You had some of us worried a bit about your long absence. :)
I spent some extra time in Indonesia. Thanks for the thoughts :)
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Re: Nvidia will never allow Nouveau fully operational

Post by gm10 » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:30 am

catweazel wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:55 am
Pjotr wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:50 am
catweazel wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:18 am
Not only but also...
Good to hear from you, old magician! You had some of us worried a bit about your long absence. :)
I spent some extra time in Indonesia. Thanks for the thoughts :)
And people laughed at me when I said you were enjoying your vacation, something about no summer down under. Welcome back, people get worried when you're not around! ;)
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Re: Nvidia will never allow Nouveau fully operational

Post by deepakdeshp » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:53 am

Pjotr wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:50 am
catweazel wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:18 am
Not only but also...
Good to hear from you, old magician! You had some of us worried a bit about your long absence. :)
Here is the proof
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=298595
Why not write something about your Indonesian adventure? Have you visited India? If not do visit.
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Re: Nvidia will never allow Nouveau fully operational

Post by AndyMH » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:48 am

Glad to have you back, a lot of us were starting to get worried. :D
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Re: Nvidia will never allow Nouveau fully operational

Post by Portreve » Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:21 am

catweazel wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:55 am
Pjotr wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:50 am
catweazel wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:18 am
Not only but also...
Good to hear from you, old magician! You had some of us worried a bit about your long absence. :)
I spent some extra time in Indonesia. Thanks for the thoughts :)
So reports of your death / abduction by aliens / secret relocation as part of the Witness Protection Program / etc. would all be greatly exaggerated then, I guess.
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Re: Nvidia will never allow Nouveau fully operational

Post by Pepi » Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:41 am

catweazel wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:55 am
Pjotr wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:50 am
catweazel wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:18 am
Not only but also...
Good to hear from you, old magician! You had some of us worried a bit about your long absence. :)
I spent some extra time in Indonesia. Thanks for the thoughts :)
You need to post some pictures of your travels 8)

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Re: Nvidia will never allow Nouveau fully operational

Post by Moem » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:42 am

gm10 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:30 am
people laughed at me when I said you were enjoying your vacation, something about no summer down under.
No, you said he was enjoying his summer. And he wasn't; he was enjoying his winter. :P
And I'm very glad this was the case! Welcome back, Cat.
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