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Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by felemur » Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:44 pm

VERY nice. Absolutely no issues!

I've been running it for about 8 hours now, and pushing it hard without a hiccup.

The only surprise is when installing some of my favourite software via ppa's, I get the message "This ppa does not support Xenial". That will soon be history. That said, I have either found what I want in the repository or via a different ppa that does do Xenial.

Congrats to the the Mint team.

PS - I got it here: <link removed by nasty moderator, because the Mint makers would like to make sure you get their announcements and instructions together with the download link>
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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by Reorx » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:08 pm

I am just starting to play with LM18C64 BETA. D/Led the ISO and the SHA256SUM checked out. Burned the ISO to a USB stick without any problems.

When I stick the USB stick into a USB port, open it in a terminal, and run md5sum -c MD5SUMS, I get a report that the things that are on the stick are OK but 69 items seem to be missing!?!?!?!?!

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md5sum: ./isolinux/16x16.fnt: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/am.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/ast.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/back.jpg: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/be.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/bg.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/bootlogo: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/bs.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/ca.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/chain.c32: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/cs.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/da.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/de.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/el.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/en.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/eo.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/es.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/et.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/eu.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/fa.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/fi.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/fr.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/ga.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/gl.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/he.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/hr.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/hu.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/id.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/is.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/isolinux.cfg: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/it.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/ja.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/ka.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/kk.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/kn.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/ko.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/ku.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/langlist: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/ldlinux.c32: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/libcom32.c32: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/libutil.c32: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/lo.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/lt.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/lv.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/mk.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/mr.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/nb.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/nl.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/nn.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/pl.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/pt.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/pt_BR.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/ro.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/ru.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/si.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/sk.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/sl.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/splash.png: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/sq.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/sr.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/sv.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/te.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/tl.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/tr.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/uk.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/vesamenu.c32: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/vi.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/zh_CN.tr: No such file or directory 
md5sum: ./isolinux/zh_TW.tr: No such file or directory 
...
md5sum: WARNING: 69 listed files could not be read 
Anyone else get anything like this? The stick seems to boot without any problems but I don't know what to think of these results in the integrity check.
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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by Reorx » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:10 am

Ran into another glitch on my experimentation machine! Wireless not working under LM18C64 BETA - and the machine has no wired connection! (NOTE: this problem was probably the result of a "bad burn"! See Edits at the end of this post below)

Under the LM18 Beta >
LM18_C64_BETA_wireless.jpg
Under LMDE2 >
LMDE2_Wireless.jpg
Driver manager is useless without an internet connection... can you say "Catch 22"?!?!?!? :lol:

Anyone have any ideas?
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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by felemur » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:06 am

The wireless issue surprises me, as my wireless worked properly right from the install on a computer that was a pain getting the wireless to work without major tinkering under 17.2, 17.3 and Manjaro Linux.

I used the sha256sum to check the integrity of the download and it was good to go. Did you try running the MD5 on the ISO file BEFORE you burned it to a flash stick? I THINK that may be the issue.

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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by karlchen » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:19 am

Hello, all you impatient beta testers,

please, practice your patience and wait till Clem announces that Mint 18 beta is available together with any instructions he may want to give here: Releases & Announcements :wink:

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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by andersau » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:02 am

I've also installed Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit - I'm keen to see what is new and prepared to take a chance. It installed without a glitch and is working nicely. I haven't had much time to test it yet but so far it looks good. I'll be making another donation to the team soon.

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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by Reorx » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:20 am

felemur wrote:The wireless issue surprises me, as my wireless worked properly right from the install on a computer that was a pain getting the wireless to work without major tinkering under 17.2, 17.3 and Manjaro Linux.
Surprised me too. Wireless works under LMDE2 and LM17.3. It also worked under 17, 17.1, & 17.2. All with no problems what-so-ever.
felemur wrote:I used the sha256sum to check the integrity of the download and it was good to go. Did you try running the MD5 on the ISO file BEFORE you burned it to a flash stick? I THINK that may be the issue.
As I said, I checked the SHA256SUM as well and it is correct... and I haven't seen a published MD5SUM for the ISO but I get "0f19412f7bcec2d8dd31c164bc530335".

1 Last comment before clamming up until the official announcement by Clem > I LOVE having the Firewal GUI (Gufw) in System Settings. Much appreciated Mint Dev Team! :mrgreen:
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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by MintBean » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:03 am

Great to hear GUFW is in by default- wise decision IMO.

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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by felemur » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:04 am

Reorx wrote:
felemur wrote:... and I haven't seen a published MD5SUM for the ISO but I get "0f19412f7bcec2d8dd31c164bc530335".
Me too:

0f19412f7bcec2d8dd31c164bc530335 linuxmint-18-cinnamon-64bit-beta.iso

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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by felemur » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:13 am

karlchen wrote:Hello, all you impatient beta testers,

please, practice your patience and wait till Clem announces that Mint 18 beta is available together with any instructions he may want to give here: Releases & Announcements :wink:

Karl
Good advice, but I put it in an experimental computer, so I still have my 17.3 production computer.

So after pushing it hard, I have only found one small issue, and it could be something I'm doing wrong - haven't yet had the time to go into detail: I cannot make the Epson V500 Photo scanner drivers from Epson install. I have installed them a few times with re-installs on 17.3 without issue. Starts up in terminal fine, then terminal crashes and closes within a few seconds. NOT asking for help (yet), but if you know what's up, PM me. http://support.epson.net/linux/en/iscan_c.html

Should I report this on LM launchpad? I want to help, but I don't want to bother them with minor stuff.

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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by Reorx » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:19 am

felemur wrote:
Reorx wrote:
felemur wrote:... and I haven't seen a published MD5SUM for the ISO but I get "0f19412f7bcec2d8dd31c164bc530335".
Me too: 0f19412f7bcec2d8dd31c164bc530335 linuxmint-18-cinnamon-64bit-beta.iso
We are obviously working with the same ISO. I'm guessing the problem with 69 missing items is merely a "mistake" in the MD5SUMS file in the root directory of the Live USB and that this will be corrected in future ISOs (I presume the Dev Team will find this thread! :lol: ).
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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by sikejsudjek » Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:28 am

Impatient beta testers ? Surely not :D

I've already put it in a thinkpad t410 in virtual box, and onto a separate ssd on a skylake rig. Runs perfectly so far (although neither are using wifi).

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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by Reorx » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:21 pm

Figured out the MD5SUMS problem (mostly). The paths in the MD5SUMS file that point to ./isolinux/... should point to ./syslinux/... If you edit the paths on those 69 lines, all the errors go away except 1 >>> and that is the line for ./isolinux/isolinux.cfg. If you change it to .sysolinux/syslinux.cfg (.sysolinux/isolinux.cfg doesn't exist) that md5sum check fails.

Also of interest - in the syslinux folder, there is a file named isolinux.bin that is not listed in the MD5SUMS file.
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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by Reorx » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:23 pm

Tried booting my LM18C64 BETA Live USB on a machine (my office laptop) with these specs >>>

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System:    Host: freedom-12 Kernel: 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.8.2)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 2.2.16 (Gtk 3.10.8~8+qiana) Distro: Linux Mint 17 Qiana
Machine:   Mobo: Dell model: 0NHCFP v: A02 Bios: Dell v: A02 date: 03/23/2012
CPU:       Dual core Intel Celeron P4600 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 7980
           clock speeds: max: 1995 MHz 1: 1064 MHz 2: 1729 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.15.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Mobile GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.1.0 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.13.0-24-generic
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter driver: bcma-pci-bridge bus-ID: 12:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e000 bus-ID: 13:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (6.1% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST320LT020 size: 320.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 99G used: 14G (15%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3
           ID-2: /boot size: 2.0G used: 46M (3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 5.37GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 44.5C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 147 Uptime: 9 min Memory: 556.6/3754.6MB Init: Upstart runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.8.4
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.111) inxi: 2.2.16
Got this error message and boot sequence stopped dead in its tracks >>>

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vesamenu.c32: not a COM32R image
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Also tried booting my LM18C64 BETA Live USB on a machine (my homee laptop) with these specs and got the same error message! >>>

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System:    Host: freedom-13 Kernel: 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.8.2)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 2.2.16 (Gtk 3.10.8~8+qiana) Distro: Linux Mint 17 Qiana
Machine:   System: Dell (portable) product: Vostro 2520
           Mobo: Dell model: 08V8XX v: A05 Bios: Dell v: A05 date: 01/25/2013
Battery    BAT0: charge: 45.0 Wh 168.9% condition: 26.6/45.0 Wh (59%)
           model: SANYO DELL 4YRJH32 status: Full
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i3-2348M (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 9179
           clock speeds: max: 2300 MHz 1: 900 MHz 2: 800 MHz 3: 900 MHz 4: 800 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.15.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1366x768@60.1hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.1.0 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 7 Series/C210 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.13.0-24-generic
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom BCM43142 802.11b/g/n driver: wl bus-ID: 07:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e000 bus-ID: 09:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (14.9% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MQ01ABF0 size: 320.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 50G used: 36G (78%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3
           ID-2: /boot size: 2.0G used: 46M (3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 9.66GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 48.5C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 172 Uptime: 4 min Memory: 602.8/7849.6MB
           Init: Upstart runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.8.4 Client: Shell (bash 4.3.111) inxi: 2.3.0
Of note: The one machine that actually booted for me was a UEFI/GPT machine. The 2 that didn't boot (and gave the above error msg) were Legacy/MBR machines. Coincidence???

Edit 1: Re-burned the ISO to another USB stick using the Mint USB Image Writer. The new stick booted on my home machine and my office machine just fine. The WiFi did not work initially (on the home machine) but connecting with a wired connection and opening Driver Manager fixed that minor annoyance quickly. I didn't try to establish a wired connection on my office machine but I assume it will produce the same result. I am still puzzled why the original USB stick would boot one of my machines but not the other 2...

Edit 2: New stick boots my experimentation machine AND the WiFi works! The problems with the previous stick must have been either a bad burn or a bad stick! But no matter - All's well that ends well! Let the fun begin!!! :mrgreen:

Edit 3: Re-burned the ISO onto the original USB stick using the Mint USB Image Writer and it works like the other on all machines. Seems the stick is good so I assume the initial burn was bad on the original stick.
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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by Trapper » Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:31 pm

I am testing LM18 MATE 64. It has a few hiccups but most are also found in U16.04 MATE upstream. Also had a bit of trouble initially getting USB WiFi recognized. Went well with the installer but I had to manually create the WiFi connection in my installed LM18. Had to unplug and plug in USB WiFi a couple of times before it would be found. Had the exact same situation with Ubuntu 16.04. Never had to do this with previous editions. Even tested with a different USB WiFi. Same results.

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Re: Mint 18 Cinnamon 64 bit BETA early review

Post by MikeP » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:17 am

Thanks to everyone on the team. I have been using "Sarah" for a few days now and it runs brilliantly on my 13 inch HP Pavilion (touch screen). I am well pleased with Blueberry even my wayward blue-tooth mouse works a treat.

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