My mom is 70 and is thinking about going with Linux Mint. She's on the fence. What should I tell her to convince her?

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Re: My mom is 70 and is thinking about going with Linux Mint. She's on the fence. What should I tell her to convince her

Postby Doruletz » Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:41 am

James_Smith wrote:Awesome answers so far. Thanks.

Here's a treat for you (click on the image to enlarge it):

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LMFAO, man. That is ooohhhh so righteous.
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Loved it, saved it, and will post it on my facebook in a minute...
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Re: My mom is 70 and is thinking about going with Linux Mint. She's on the fence. What should I tell her to convince her

Postby MintGuy » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:28 am

I am almost 72 and have been using Mint for over 6 years and Ubuntu for over 10 years. If she is coming from Windows and only uses email, web browsing and word processing and spreadsheets, there is almost no learning curve for her. If she does multimedia, then she just needs to be introduced to the Mint application replacements. My wife is 70 and is running Linux Mint 17.3. She has no interest in the internals of Linux. She uses LibreOffice Writer and Calc heavily. She fought going from MS Office to LibreOffice initially, but now has no issues and rarely asks for help from me.

The big advantage over MS Windows is the fact that all your user data resides in the home directory. This simplifies backups and makes it much easier finding files you have created. The other big advantage is that Linux Mint is very light on the computer requirements. I have Mint 17.3 running just fine on an old Acer Notebook that is 10 years old. It only has 4 gb ram and a 500gb drive with fairly slow duel-core CPU. Windows 7 would be a dog on that computer today. Mint is very snapy on that computer that I use when I travel.

Tell her to enjoy Mint and have fun exploring this easy to use OS. :D

Best of Luck

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Re: My mom is 70 and is thinking about going with Linux Mint. She's on the fence. What should I tell her to convince her

Postby _Josue_ » Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:05 pm

Well, with everyone sharing their experiences, I think I'll also tell everyone else my story.
My mom uses a very old (2002 or so) pentium 4, it had Windows XP installed. It doesn't anymore. Since it's such an old piece of hardware, it's slow and it was even slower and clunckier with windows, so I told her the thing was unbearably slow and that I was going to "format" it. So I did, but instead of windows I installed Linux Mint XFCE 18. Since she uses that machine for basic stuff such as web browsing and watching youtube videos, the transition was a piece of cake!
Desktop Pentium D Linux Mint 17.3 Mate & Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon
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Re: My mom is 70 and is thinking about going with Linux Mint. She's on the fence. What should I tell her to convince her

Postby BeHarley » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:54 am

mariad_10 wrote:
BG405 wrote:
mariad_10 wrote:With the recent cyber attack i have lost my trust in Windows

The recent, highly publicized (at least in the UK) ransomware infections are resulting in a lot more people considering switching to Linux, which can only be a good thing. It may be what encouraged her to ask. The more this sort of thing appears in the headlines, the more people will discover the benefits of Linux.

That is definitely true, the farther the exposure farther is going to be the diversion from windows and movement towards Linux. The trust i was talking about since i lost all the data i had. I had to start all over again with just one lucky file i had on my docs.



People who got infected were using old installation of windows. those who were using 8.1 or 10, Microsoft rolled out the patch for them, which countered the infection. That's why pc that had 10 or 8.1 were not infected, mostly enterprises using 7 or 8 were hit, in some cases people were still using xp and vista.

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Re: My mom is 70 and is thinking about going with Linux Mint. She's on the fence. What should I tell her to convince her

Postby BeHarley » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:08 am

James_Smith wrote:Awesome answers so far. Thanks.

Here's a treat for you (click on the image to enlarge it):

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This is wicked. Made me laugh like insane! Good one bruv

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Re: My mom is 70 and is thinking about going with Linux Mint. She's on the fence. What should I tell her to convince her

Postby mariad_10 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:30 pm

BeHarley wrote:
mariad_10 wrote:
BG405 wrote:

The recent, highly publicized (at least in the UK) ransomware infections are resulting in a lot more people considering switching to Linux, which can only be a good thing. It may be what encouraged her to ask. The more this sort of thing appears in the headlines, the more people will discover the benefits of Linux.

That is definitely true, the farther the exposure farther is going to be the diversion from windows and movement towards Linux. The trust i was talking about since i lost all the data i had. I had to start all over again with just one lucky file i had on my docs.



People who got infected were using old installation of windows. those who were using 8.1 or 10, Microsoft rolled out the patch for them, which countered the infection. That's why pc that had 10 or 8.1 were not infected, mostly enterprises using 7 or 8 were hit, in some cases people were still using xp and vista.



Unfortunately, i was using the Windows 7. :cry:

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Re: My mom is 70 and is thinking about going with Linux Mint. She's on the fence. What should I tell her to convince her

Postby BeHarley » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:42 am

mariad_10 wrote:
BeHarley wrote:
mariad_10 wrote:The recent, highly publicized (at least in the UK) ransomware infections are resulting in a lot more people considering switching to Linux, which can only be a good thing. It may be what encouraged her to ask. The more this sort of thing appears in the headlines, the more people will discover the benefits of Linux.

That is definitely true, the farther the exposure farther is going to be the diversion from windows and movement towards Linux. The trust i was talking about since i lost all the data i had. I had to start all over again with just one lucky file i had on my docs.



People who got infected were using old installation of windows. those who were using 8.1 or 10, Microsoft rolled out the patch for them, which countered the infection. That's why pc that had 10 or 8.1 were not infected, mostly enterprises using 7 or 8 were hit, in some cases people were still using xp and vista.



Unfortunately, i was using the Windows 7. :cry:


You're not the only one then. Big enterprises were effected and guess what, they were on Win7 Installation. Including the company were I work. :lol:

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Re: My mom is 70 and is thinking about going with Linux Mint. She's on the fence. What should I tell her to convince her

Postby km_mcd » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:41 pm

Make sure that she understands that her printer may no longer work, or may require support of an expert to get it to work.

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Re: My mom is 70 and is thinking about going with Linux Mint. She's on the fence. What should I tell her to convince her

Postby James_Smith » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:42 am

km_mcd wrote:Make sure that she understands that her printer may no longer work, or may require support of an expert to get it to work.


I've already checked on that. It worked with my laptop.

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Re: My mom is 70 and is thinking about going with Linux Mint. She's on the fence. What should I tell her to convince her

Postby HubertCumberdale » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:49 pm

Why should she ditch Windoze and go with Mint?


Well your mother doesn't have to do anything, she can stick with Windows if she wants, but since she's already considering Linux Mint, point out that Windows 7 support will end in 2020 and she'll then have to learn her way around Windows 10 (which she'll probably end up buying on a new computer to be sure the hardware is up to spec and will definitely work with Windows 10). Her current computer will probably run Mint no problem, so she doesn't have to buy a new computer. Also, updates are more regular and smaller on Mint, and she won't have to worry about updating her antivirus and doing scans since she won't have any antivirus running on Mint anyway. Also Windows 10 spies heavily on its users. Plus it's confusing with its weird programs/apps interface.

You could run either a live Mint USB or set up a dual-boot system and see how your mother gets on with it.

1. Surfing the web: Set up the bookmarks bar in Firefox (or Chromium if she's used to Chrome) with site icons for Google, YouTube, Facebook, her genealogy sites, and any other sites she regularly visits. Tell her how to add new icons for sites if she wants to. Installing the uBlock Origin addon in Firefox (or Chromium) wouldn't be a bad idea to block ads, trackers, malware sites and scam sites. Leave uBlock Origin in its default configuration. You don't want to use it in its advanced mode, breaking sites and confusing your mother.

2. Playing games: Someone has already mentioned Wine/PlayOnLinux, but you could try VirtualBox as an alternative. Follow the instructions at http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/create-iso ... ws-system/ to create an ISO image of your mother's entire hard drive. An ISO is an exact copy of the hard drive, which you can then import into VirtualBox. That means that your mother can run her old Win7 set-up on Mint.

3. Checking email: As already pointed out, if she's using outlook.com then just create a site icon in the browser bookmarks bar. If she's using the installed version of Outlook, then as also pointed out, switch to Thunderbird. Or third option, switch to an online email service like outlook.com or Gmail and create an icon in the bookmarks bar.

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Re: My mom is 70 and is thinking about going with Linux Mint. She's on the fence. What should I tell her to convince her

Postby Petermint » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:10 am

Windows 7 is like Windows XP, it will survive for a long time due to a lack of a useful Windows replacement. Windows 8.1 is Windows 8 fixed up to the point where it is almost Windows 7 but still has keystroke wasting "enhancements" as bad as OSX. Every other post 7 Windows is a real step down into support hell.

You might find the easiest approach is to start replacing the software on the Windows 7 machine with open source replacements that run across Windows and Linux. There will be less to convert in the future. Test some of the existing programs under Wine in Linux. Go back to the Windows/Linux debate when you have working alternatives to most of the programs.


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