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Linux Mint 19.2: why not based on Ubuntu 18.04.03?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:42 pm
by MrGrimm
have to ask why the devs didn't wait for unbuntu 18.04.3 to be released before building this?

Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:53 am
by MrGrimm
MrGrimm wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:42 pm
have to ask why the devs didn't wait for unbuntu 18.04.3 to be released before building this?
i've been more than patient on this. now i do expect a response. it's not a difficult question to answer.

Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:44 am
by mediclaser
MrGrimm wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:42 pm
have to ask why the devs didn't wait for unbuntu 18.04.3 to be released before building this?
What is in Ubuntu 18.04.3 that is of importance?

Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:37 am
by MrGrimm
it installs kernel 5.0 out of the gate for one.

Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:40 am
by MrGrimm
MrGrimm wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:42 pm
have to ask why the devs didn't wait for unbuntu 18.04.3 to be released before building this?
BUMP

Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:03 am
by Moem
MrGrimm wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:42 pm
have to ask why the devs didn't wait for unbuntu 18.04.3 to be released before building this?
Because Linux Mint releases are based on Ubuntu long term support releases. And so, the whole Linux Mint 19 series is based on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.
MrGrimm wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:53 am
it's not a difficult question to answer.
I agree. I found it quite easy to look up. I found it here https://itsfoss.com/linux-mint-19-2-release/ but there are tons of other places where that information can be found.

I expect a 'thank you'.

Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:14 am
by MrGrimm
while i do thank you for the link and the info there is the following.

first i asked the devs.
second itsfoss aren't the devs, are they? all a article will tell me is the writers opinion on why it was done.
third 18.04.3 is lts.

http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/

Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:06 pm
by zcot
MrGrimm wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:14 am
root email would be the most direct: https://www.linuxmint.com/contactus.php

or developer group members: memberlist.php?mode=group&g=18

Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:24 pm
by MrGrimm
zcot wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:06 pm
MrGrimm wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:14 am
root email would be the most direct: https://www.linuxmint.com/contactus.php

or developer group members: memberlist.php?mode=group&g=18
thanks for that, but the reason for asking here is so when the question is answered more than just one person will see the answer.

Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:26 pm
by JerryF
MrGrimm wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:24 pm
thanks for that, but the reason for asking here is so when the question is answered more than just one person will see the answer.
This is not the area for support nor for asking questions. This is for releases & announcements.

Plus, stomping your feet and acting like a child doesn't foster an atmosphere for responses with your demand:
MrGrimm wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:24 pm
i've been more than patient on this. now i do expect a response. it's not a difficult question to answer.

Re: Linux Mint 19.2 “Tina” Cinnamon released!

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:56 pm
by MrGrimm
JerryF wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:26 pm
MrGrimm wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:24 pm
thanks for that, but the reason for asking here is so when the question is answered more than just one person will see the answer.
This is not the area for support nor for asking questions. This is for releases & announcements.

Plus, stomping your feet and acting like a child doesn't foster an atmosphere for responses with your demand:
MrGrimm wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:24 pm
i've been more than patient on this. now i do expect a response. it's not a difficult question to answer.
first NO ONE stomped their feet, i ask a LEGITIMATE question. second this is the place to ask just that type of question.

Re: Linux Mint 19.2: why not based on Ubuntu 18.04.03?

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:38 am
by Moem
Mod note:
Question split off from an announcement thread. Announcement theads are not the place to ask questions.

Re: Linux Mint 19.2: why not based on Ubuntu 18.04.03?

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:56 am
by rene
Moem wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:38 am
Question split off from an announcement thread. Announcement theads are not the place to ask questions.
If you'd only stomped your feet you'd have been fine though.

Re: Linux Mint 19.2: why not based on Ubuntu 18.04.03?

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:57 am
by karlchen
Hello, MrGrimm.

Actually Mint 19.2 could hardly be based on Ubuntu 18.04.3, because their development processes crossed.
So waiting for Ubuntu 18.04.3 would have meant to delay the release date of Mint 19.2.

Yet, what you really had in mind, was the kernel question:
In the past Mint minor releases .2 and .3 brought along the most recent Ubuntu HWE kernels.
For Mint 19.2 this would indeed have meant that the Mint 19.2 ISO images might have brought along Linux kernel 5.0.0 instead of 4.15.0.

Why the decision has been made to stay with kernel 4.15.0 instead can only be answered by the Linux Mint developer team.

Best regards,
Karl

Re: Linux Mint 19.2: why not based on Ubuntu 18.04.03?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:36 pm
by smgordon1259
waiting would mean , well waiting more for 19.2 to be released, more testing, so no reason to wait. Besides the ability to install it from the 'Update Manager' is not that time consuming.

Re: Linux Mint 19.2: why not based on Ubuntu 18.04.03?

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:52 am
by MrGrimm
actually waiting a few extra day would of been fine by me and i'm sure most.

Re: Linux Mint 19.2: why not based on Ubuntu 18.04.03?

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:17 pm
by Pjotr
MrGrimm wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:52 am
actually waiting a few extra day would of been fine by me and i'm sure most.
Please do some more research before posting such bold statements. It would have entailed more than just a "few extra days". Everything would have needed extensive further testing on the renewed code base, before reliably stable iso's could be spun.

Now the real question is: would it have been worthwhile to delay Mint 19.2 by weeks or more? Apparently the Mint devs thought not. That's a reasonable point of view, even though the opposite view would have been reasonable as well.

If you don't like it: ask your money back.

Re: Linux Mint 19.2: why not based on Ubuntu 18.04.03?

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:01 pm
by cliffcoggin
MrGrimm wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:42 pm
have to ask why the devs didn't wait for unbuntu 18.04.3 to be released before building this?
So why not ask them?

Re: Linux Mint 19.2: why not based on Ubuntu 18.04.03?

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:51 pm
by Pjotr
cliffcoggin wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:01 pm
MrGrimm wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:42 pm
have to ask why the devs didn't wait for unbuntu 18.04.3 to be released before building this?
So why not ask them?
Wisely spoken. :)

Re: Linux Mint 19.2: why not based on Ubuntu 18.04.03?

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:02 pm
by all41
Pjotr wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:51 pm
cliffcoggin wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:01 pm
MrGrimm wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:42 pm
have to ask why the devs didn't wait for unbuntu 18.04.3 to be released before building this?
So why not ask them?
Wisely spoken. :)
Double down on this