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Time for a publicity push ?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:50 am
by tymeric
With the imminent demise of Windows XP in April 2014, it occured to me that this could be a good time to publicly push Mint towards all those millions(probably) of people who are totally unaware, or those that are just realising that they will have to do something about it in the next few months.

I suspect most will panic into buying a Windows upgrade, but what if Linux / Mint advertised an almost free alternative, with a temporary website giving simple walk through instructions to load up Mint 13 or links to buy Mint DVD's ?

Although I've converted a few people, most seem unaware of Linux. If they were told of a much cheaper/free alternative to Windows, I'm sure many would seek out further help to get started ?

Just a thought.......

Tymeric


(No connection, just a very satisfied user)

Re: Time for a publicity push ?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:08 am
by mike acker
tymeric wrote:With the imminent demise of Windows XP in April 2014, it occured to me that this could be a good time to publicly push Mint towards all those millions(probably) of people who are totally unaware, or those that are just realising that they will have to do something about it in the next few months.

I suspect most will panic into buying a Windows upgrade, but what if Linux / Mint advertised an almost free alternative, with a temporary website giving simple walk through instructions to load up Mint 13 or links to buy Mint DVD's ?

Although I've converted a few people, most seem unaware of Linux. If they were told of a much cheaper/free alternative to Windows, I'm sure many would seek out further help to get started ?

Just a thought.......

Tymeric


(No connection, just a very satisfied user)
demise of XP ? or depreciation of msft overall ?
this article on DailyTech yesterday suggests "The Times, They are a'changin"
[url]http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=33363&red=y#890073[/url]

looks like the betting money should be on ChromeOS and Google

Activity Report
[url]http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/09/google-and-samsung-soar-into-list-of-top-10-linux-contributors/[/url]

7 updates per hour for Linux. wow

Re: Time for a publicity push ?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:07 am
by Snapcase
Oh, god, the big brother grows up strongly and won't stop. The world will be in Google's hands.

Re: Time for a publicity push ?

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:35 pm
by InkKnife
I wonder if the growing public concerns about the security of "cloud" services might not hurt Google's plan for world domination. I know I sure would not use a device powered by an OS provided by the largest data mining operation on earth.
Mint and a proper paid backup server are infinity better than using an outfit like Google.

Re: Time for a publicity push ?

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:22 am
by mike acker
InkKnife wrote:I wonder if the growing public concerns about the security of "cloud" services might not hurt Google's plan for world domination. I know I sure would not use a device powered by an OS provided by the largest data mining operation on earth.
Mint and a proper paid backup server are infinity better than using an outfit like Google.
Google's cloud will be a high value target. the hackers will get to it.

but you have to look at this from a sales and marketing perspective. the perception is: i buy a 'puter and then i can do all the fun stuff. people don't like getting nickel-dimed for additional stuff, --- like software.

a critical priority for Linux distros intended for general use -- is LibreOffice. from my testing V4 is better on compatibility w/ msft than the 3x. the issue remains-- if you save in an open document format -- odt, ods, --- msft systems may yell "This file is CORRUPT" .

still, in LibreOffice if you save in msft format (doc, or docx) you have a better chance of being msft compatible

aside from that, the basic programs should work well,--

I would make Chromium the default browser; Firefox has trouble rendering pages at times (mp4 in html5 ? ) . but in this as usual -- people should have ready access to 2 browswers -- their favorite, and an alternate.

VLC was better on MINT; on Ubuntu I had to install an extra library for restriced formats ( i did this to mint too / not sure if it was needed -- i did it before testing vlc )

the OpenShot video editor seems ok in MINT, again in Ubuntu i had to install extra libraries before i had all the codecs for various formats. (remember: the majority of people you share with use msft formats.)

Thunderbird -- was missing ENIGMAIL option; i had to download the installler and do it myself. not hard -- BUT this kind of glitch is what will push people to Google/Chrome . Google/ChromeOS will adopt steve jobs philosophy that defects are UNACCEPTABLE . they will come close,-- and have people beating down their doors.

the music player -- Audacious -- seems fine

the picture viewer -- Gwenview -- is missing the plug-ins to share/upload px to (e.g.) FLICKR

the automatic camera import -- gthumb -- fails to offer to get px by date(s) rather than everything and is too restrictive re the target directory. you can use NEMO instead and do just fine. but these are the little things .

Home Networking ( SAMBA ) . If it's as bad as Ubuntu -- then Just Don't. use a usb stick.

Re: Time for a publicity push ?

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:59 am
by Nilla Wafer
Okay but here's the thing:

The latest and greatest Mints - even the lightweight ones - are quickly outgrowing those old computers that run XP. My own computer is a good example. It came with WindowsXP and when it got so slow it was crippled, I found Mint Xfce and all was well.

But two things threaten our dreams of having Mint running on all those XP machines when support for XP ends:
  • If I wanted the latest and greatest Mint, it would struggle on my computer. Even the current LTS version of Mint Xfce taxes my machine once in a while. The newest versions are too heavy!

    If I wanted to download and install Mint, I still can't! Because even the lightweight flavors don't fit on a CD anymore and my XP machine doesn't burn DVDs, only CDs.
And don't imagine that new users coming from XP are going to download and burn a Plop CD and then use it to boot a big fat Mint from a USB stick.

So XP users would be moving on, in search of a distro they could actually get and actually use. All they would have to do is Google "Linux for old computers" and they might find something they could use. But as one Linux blogger wrote, "even the venerable and ultralight Crunchbang Linux is too big to fit on a CD any more."

If we really want to see Mint inherit those old XP machines, Mint needs to keep those users in mind when it releases a new "lightweight / for older machines" version! I might actually end up on AntiX or something when my Mint Xfce LTS reaches EOL.

~nilla

Re: Time for a publicity push ?

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:06 pm
by mike acker
Nilla Wafer wrote:Okay but here's the thing:

The latest and greatest Mints - even the lightweight ones - are quickly outgrowing those old computers that run XP. My own computer is a good example. It came with WindowsXP and when it got so slow it was crippled, I found Mint Xfce and all was well.

But two things threaten our dreams of having Mint running on all those XP machines when support for XP ends:
  • If I wanted the latest and greatest Mint, it would struggle on my computer. Even the current LTS version of Mint Xfce taxes my machine once in a while. The newest versions are too heavy!

    If I wanted to download and install Mint, I still can't! Because even the lightweight flavors don't fit on a CD anymore and my XP machine doesn't burn DVDs, only CDs.
And don't imagine that new users coming from XP are going to download and burn a Plop CD and then use it to boot a big fat Mint from a USB stick.

So XP users would be moving on, in search of a distro they could actually get and actually use. All they would have to do is Google "Linux for old computers" and they might find something they could use. But as one Linux blogger wrote, "even the venerable and ultralight Crunchbang Linux is too big to fit on a CD any more."

If we really want to see Mint inherit those old XP machines, Mint needs to keep those users in mind when it releases a new "lightweight / for older machines" version! I might actually end up on AntiX or something when my Mint Xfce LTS reaches EOL.

~nilla
you may be fussing over machines that are beyond their useful life. even that old Dell/experion machine my kids brought me ran Ubuntu 12.04 LTS OK
of course -- that was the last Ubuntu that you could load from CD. no matter -- that Dell had a CD/DVD type drive anyway. but that thing got me into Linux so it's all good . i'd really like to try Linux on an old XP Laptop though. shouldn't be too hard to find a CD/DVD USB drive ... ...and I've got a person in mind ...i need to give her Chromimum though so she can read anything she wants.