What made you switch to Linux Mint?

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Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Post by rickNS » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:54 am

Spearmint2 wrote:As I recall, you can have backup media if you make it yourself from the restore partition on the OEM computers. I distinctly remember doing it for a Vista computer in past and it took 16 CD's at that time, so probably could do onto 4 DVD's.
You're right, it does fit on 4 DVDs, and I did make them as your supposed to do.
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Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Post by Arch_Enemy » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:58 pm

Rayland-BH wrote:I switched to Linux because of Win 8/10. My mom bought a cheap HP laptop with Win 8 on it which she hated, and I couldn't phone troubleshoot it for her (couldn't navigate it despite being a Windows user since Win 3.11). Then, a couple years later, it ninja-upgraded itself to Win 10, and essentially became a brick (20+ min to boot). That was the last straw!

I had been experimenting with Linux already because I didn't want to upgrade to 10 myself either, and Mint appeared to be a great distro for a Windows refugee (Spoiler: It is). After determining that it would do everything she needed, I used a Mint 18.1 live DVD to format my Mom's HD (boy, that felt good), installed it, and we all lived happily ever after.

I still run Win 7 alongside Mint 18.3 on both my tower and my laptop, but I much prefer Mint. I spread the gospel of Linux (and Mint specifically) to anyone who will listen, and I look forward to the day I can finally quit Windows for good.

Hear, hear!

For me that will be when Canon publishes drivers for my photo printers...
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Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Post by 151tom » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:28 pm

No reason, I tried different Linux distros and use the ones I like.

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Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Post by rgand » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:13 pm

Arch_Enemy wrote:
Rayland-BH wrote:I switched to Linux because of Win 8/10. My mom bought a cheap HP laptop with Win 8 on it which she hated, and I couldn't phone troubleshoot it for her (couldn't navigate it despite being a Windows user since Win 3.11). Then, a couple years later, it ninja-upgraded itself to Win 10, and essentially became a brick (20+ min to boot). That was the last straw!

I had been experimenting with Linux already because I didn't want to upgrade to 10 myself either, and Mint appeared to be a great distro for a Windows refugee (Spoiler: It is). After determining that it would do everything she needed, I used a Mint 18.1 live DVD to format my Mom's HD (boy, that felt good), installed it, and we all lived happily ever after.

I still run Win 7 alongside Mint 18.3 on both my tower and my laptop, but I much prefer Mint. I spread the gospel of Linux (and Mint specifically) to anyone who will listen, and I look forward to the day I can finally quit Windows for good.

Hear, hear!

For me that will be when Canon publishes drivers for my photo printers...
I had difficulties with getting my Canon printer to work under all conditions. pdc_2 suggested I look at Turbo Print as a good driver for Canon printers on Linux. I did and it's outstanding. It's the only thing I ever paid for with my Linux installations but it was worth it. It's better than waiting for Canon to someday respond to the need.
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Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Post by Nate » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:45 pm

To begin with, I'll add the disclaimer that it's not the only Linux distro I use.
I've used most major distros at this point in time and thought about how the design of each would suit my various needs. On most of my home bound machines (those I don't use portably that have permanent internet access) I usually go with Arch, because I'm kind of lazy and though there's a bit of work with getting it how you want it to begin with, the bleeding edge design makes it easier to keep the software up to date.

Mint is my choice for most of my portable machines though and those tend to be the ones I use the most these days. I favour it for them as it's always felt pretty stable to me, seems to have better initial hardware support than most of the similar alternatives I've tried and it can handle most of the tasks I use regularly from the initial install. Stability is always what I seek when on a machine without net access as if something is broken and I'm away from the internet for a few days, I can't download anything that may be necessary to fix it. I suppose in a sense it also appeals to my laziness thanks to how little I need do after an initial installation.

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Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Post by Arch_Enemy » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:21 am

Nate wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:45 pm
I usually go with Arch, because I'm kind of lazy
Um...don't you have that backwards?!?!?!

Especially if you're installing "the Arch way". What a PITA!

I still have a copy of the installer someone devised a few years ago, and it still basically works. You have to massage a couple things and do some post-install changes, but it sure simplifies installation.

The reason I have been sticking with Mint is because it is so easy to install, set up, and then make an ISO of your installed system, so you have a USB with all your programs and setting you can take anywhere.
I tired doing that with Arch last year. The finally let me out of the "home" just before Christmas... :cry:
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Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Post by Arch_Enemy » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:22 am

Arch_Enemy wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:21 am
Nate wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:45 pm
I usually go with Arch, because I'm kind of lazy
Um...don't you have that backwards?!?!?!

Especially if you're installing "the Arch way". What a PITA!

I still have a copy of the installer someone devised a few years ago, and it still basically works. You have to massage a couple things and do some post-install changes, but it sure simplifies installation.

The reason I have been sticking with Mint is because it is so easy to install, set up, and then make an ISO of your installed system, so you have a USB with all your programs and setting you can take anywhere.
I tired doing that with Arch last year. The finally let me out of the "home" just before Christmas... :cry:

I meant to say "tried", but "tired" works just as well...
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Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Post by Nate » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:35 am

Arch_Enemy wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:21 am

Um...don't you have that backwards?!?!?!
Nope. The thing I've found with Arch, is it takes me a bit of effort for the initial setup and then for the most part it just does it's own thing. I never have to install a newer version or try some in-distro upgrading tool which'll probably end up breaking a bunch of things and require a bunch of work. Sure once in a while you might have to install the odd package manually or something, but you'll never have to do another fresh install or version upgrade.

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Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Post by Arch_Enemy » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:08 pm

Nate wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:35 am
Arch_Enemy wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:21 am

Um...don't you have that backwards?!?!?!
Nope. The thing I've found with Arch, is it takes me a bit of effort for the initial setup and then for the most part it just does it's own thing. I never have to install a newer version or try some in-distro upgrading tool which'll probably end up breaking a bunch of things and require a bunch of work. Sure once in a while you might have to install the odd package manually or something, but you'll never have to do another fresh install or version upgrade.
I install some older packages, some of them are in AUR, and some of those have been orphaned and not updated, so I have to massage the PKGBUILDs to get them to install. It's what probably led to my disagreement with Arch. The story I've told here many times is, when it does the 5th update, it borks my system. and that is always the time my manager calls and says, "Can you look at...?". The third time he said, "Either get something that works, or go back to Windows". Hence my coming back to Mint.

Arch sure has a lot of advantages, and you can basically install just about any package out there, but that leads to breakage. I have another drive with Arch on it; I got it where I wanted it and then turned off the update checker. The only thing I have updated since is the kernel because of the patches, and luckily it did not break my system.

One of the reasons it kept borking in the early days is because I loved Gnome 2, and would spend 2-3 days installing the packages and libraries to make it work after it was abandoned. That was responsible for wrecking my system 3 times, and then they put MATE in the repositories. I don't know exactly what it is that's breaking the installation now, so that's why I lock it in place when I get everything working.

The other thing is a lot of Arch people have a certain "attitude", and while I'm smarter than the average bear, Linux is still just a hobby for me and a way to get away from Windows. I don't need someone calling me a ninny when I ask a question and get comments like "Why don't you just load Windows?" Yes, it's a Windows world, and I was a Help Desk Analyst and have been a computer tech for 25 years, but Linux is still not a way of life for me, even though I have been using it 15 years. I'm a "superuser", not a Guru.

BTW, I love Arch. You can do anything with it. Just too much effort to get what I want. That's why I build it and lock it in place.
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When the system fails, reinstall and use the exact same username and all your 'stuff' comes back to you.

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Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Post by Nate » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:29 pm

Arch_Enemy wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:08 pm
I install some older packages, some of them are in AUR, and some of those have been orphaned and not updated, so I have to massage the PKGBUILDs to get them to install. It's what probably led to my disagreement with Arch. The story I've told here many times is, when it does the 5th update, it borks my system. and that is always the time my manager calls and says, "Can you look at...?". The third time he said, "Either get something that works, or go back to Windows". Hence my coming back to Mint.
It might be my usage that is why I've had such an easier time. there's only two real things I use my permanently at home computers for and that's media playback and gaming. Steam, Wine, VLC, Opera and Transmission plus a few native open source Linux games. Some of those things themselves you need to read up on for problems before installing I've found, like the GTK+ client for Transmission cannot connect to the daemon which is handy to know in advance (I usually check ArchWiki for any potential problems with software or hardware as where there are problems there's also often a solution there).

Mint is what I love for any device that I keep on me away from home, particularly laptops/tablets which are what I use the most. Things keep working without much effort on my part and it has the best support for that kind of hardware off the bat that I've ever encountered, but it does mean software upgrades semi-regularly.

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Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Post by Arch_Enemy » Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:04 pm

Nate wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:29 pm
Arch_Enemy wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:08 pm
I install some older packages, some of them are in AUR, and some of those have been orphaned and not updated, so I have to massage the PKGBUILDs to get them to install. It's what probably led to my disagreement with Arch. The story I've told here many times is, when it does the 5th update, it borks my system. and that is always the time my manager calls and says, "Can you look at...?". The third time he said, "Either get something that works, or go back to Windows". Hence my coming back to Mint.
It might be my usage that is why I've had such an easier time. there's only two real things I use my permanently at home computers for and that's media playback and gaming. Steam, Wine, VLC, Opera and Transmission plus a few native open source Linux games. Some of those things themselves you need to read up on for problems before installing I've found, like the GTK+ client for Transmission cannot connect to the daemon which is handy to know in advance (I usually check ArchWiki for any potential problems with software or hardware as where there are problems there's also often a solution there).

Mint is what I love for any device that I keep on me away from home, particularly laptops/tablets which are what I use the most. Things keep working without much effort on my part and it has the best support for that kind of hardware off the bat that I've ever encountered, but it does mean software upgrades semi-regularly.
Back in the goodle days, SuSE was the King when it came to hardware support. They supported just about anything out there!

I still do love playing with Arch, however!
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One thing I would impress on noobs to Linux, partition a ~20G partition as /. Partition the rest as /Home.
When the system fails, reinstall and use the exact same username and all your 'stuff' comes back to you.

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