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Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:33 am
by Arch_Enemy
Black Swordsman wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:29 am
I had received my laptop from my dad that was running windows 7 enterprise and updated it to windows 10 (because I actually liked windows 10) only problem was that after I managed to update it to windows 10 by using the windows creation tool I had to update it so that it had the updated security and whatnot.

That took about 3 days of me trying to download all the security updates from home before I ended up taking it elsewhere to let it finish the updates (because my internet at home isn't that great). After it finished all the downloads and I managed to start downloading programs that I wanted to use the computer started bogging down really quickly and it would take a while before I could really do anything after booting up the computer.

Now I have been using Linux Mint 18.3 Cinnamon for about a week and I cannot say that I regret it at all...the majority of what I had been using has had the same or an easier to use alternative and from what I can tell my computer is running faster than it did even when I had received it while using windows 7
Linux in general, and Mint in particular has lower overhead than Windows. It's also not "phoning home" all the time...

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:01 am
by AlanIhsan
My need for a development platform that doesn't always tell me to agree to EULA stuff. I don't like my software having a corporate stick up its ass.

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:15 pm
by wxboss
Started my Linux journey a year ago with Linux Mint, and then I started trying other distros to see what was out there. I tried a lot, and liked certain features with certain distros but was never really happy overall.

So, I'm back with Mint (something I actually enjoy using), and intend on staying with it. The Linux world has a lot to offer, but it all boils down to what you like and enjoy using - not what other people try and tell you is better than what you have. If you're happy with something and enjoy using it, there really isn't a reason to look elsewhere.

I'm glad to have Mint back on my pc!

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:48 pm
by BigEasy
wxboss wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:15 pm
Started my Linux journey a year ago with Linux Mint, and then I started trying other distros to see what was out there. I tried a lot, and liked certain features with certain distros but was never really happy overall.
Same here. Linux Mint is most balansed desktop distro. Reliability + usability.

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:18 pm
by wxboss
BigEasy wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:48 pm
wxboss wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:15 pm
Started my Linux journey a year ago with Linux Mint, and then I started trying other distros to see what was out there. I tried a lot, and liked certain features with certain distros but was never really happy overall.
Same here. Linux Mint is most balansed desktop distro. Reliability + usability.
:) Yep! The journey into Linux can also be somewhat of a trap in that there are many choices and many voices that will tend to persuade the uninitiated to the 'greener grasses of other offerings'. However, with Linux Mint, I feel at home which means I enjoy and look forward to the experience. I seldom got that from other options.

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:55 pm
by Arch_Enemy
BigEasy wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:48 pm
wxboss wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:15 pm
Started my Linux journey a year ago with Linux Mint, and then I started trying other distros to see what was out there. I tried a lot, and liked certain features with certain distros but was never really happy overall.
Same here. Linux Mint is most balansed desktop distro. Reliability + usability.
Agreed. Mint is probably the most stable version of Linux out there. SuSE runs a close second, and PCLinuxOS (ran it for a few years) is in there as well, but Texstar keeps it closely reined in and adding stuff not meant for it can cause problems.

Arch...ugh... :D

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:42 am
by Sir Charles
Arch_Enemy wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:55 pm
Agreed. Mint is probably the most stable version of Linux out there.
But is it the most secure? Almost one week after the release of the new FF 59, Mint is still stuck with 58 with known vulnerabilities. And that is by far the only outdated piece of software in Mint's repositories. I think Mint's conservative approach to releasing new versions of software to it's users, adhering
to the idea of "old bugs good, new bugs bad" is it's Achilles heel and may put off some users who will find that they will get much faster access to updated software elsewhere ( for an example, the 3rd post in viewtopic.php?f=47&t=266032). After all, those software are updated for some reason. Oftentimes for security. To me, even if a system is apparently running "as expected" from day to day, is not an stable system, if it is not a secure one. Taking stable in a "broader" sense.
Having taken that off my chest, I'll still be using LM, "because I'm worth it" :D

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:52 am
by Pjotr
Marziano wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:42 am
Almost one week after the release of the new FF 59, Mint is still stuck with 58 with known vulnerabilities.
Yes, that's too long. And unusual: normally, the delay is "only" a couple of days. This is not good.

Because the risk of continuing with an insecure web browser is so great, I advise to install the Ubuntu Firefox like this:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinux ... or-Firefox
(items 9 and 9.1, right column)

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:54 pm
by BigEasy
Marziano wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:42 am
But is it the most secure?
Suddenly not. Most secure is probably Tails.

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:49 pm
by Arch_Enemy
BigEasy wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:54 pm
Marziano wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:42 am
But is it the most secure?
Suddenly not. Most secure is probably Tails.
Even Tails has issues.

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:19 pm
by BG405
Arch_Enemy wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:49 pm
Even Tails has issues.
Yes.
For example, it doesn't harden your front door against the Big Red Key! :roll: :lol:

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:20 pm
by AZgl1500
Pjotr wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:52 am
Yes, that's too long. And unusual: normally, the delay is "only" a couple of days. This is not good.

Because the risk of continuing with an insecure web browser is so great, I advise to install the Ubuntu Firefox like this:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinux ... or-Firefox
(items 9 and 9.1, right column)
@Pjotr

I have been following your security posts and try to keep things updated here at home.

But, I wonder about the necessity of always being "scared of an intruder" when most of my browsing is related to maybe 5 forums at most, and the very occasional use of Google to find the safest harbor for direct downloading of a new Linux for me to load into my VB.

I never play games, just have no aptitude or patience for those 'time wasters', so I never spend any time chasing those websites. I moderate a motorcycle forum and that takes 80% of my time, I visit two other motorcycle forums to help there....

I am beginning to spend most of my free time on the Linux Mint support forums because I learn so much by following thru with each of the help posts... and I take notes of them and store them in my online Evernote file.

I just applied your Firefox hint, but is it really that critical?
I have been on the internet since it was instigated, and I have only once had a browser lock up, or a security related issue... and that was on a Windows machine over a year ago, when something borked up Firefox menus...

.

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:28 pm
by Sir Charles
BigEasy wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:54 pm
Most secure is probably Tails.
Probably, but I wouldn't want to go amnesiac, at least not just yet :)

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:42 pm
by Pjotr
AZgl1500 wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:20 pm
Pjotr wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:52 am
Yes, that's too long. And unusual: normally, the delay is "only" a couple of days. This is not good.

Because the risk of continuing with an insecure web browser is so great, I advise to install the Ubuntu Firefox like this:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinux ... or-Firefox
(items 9 and 9.1, right column)
@Pjotr

I have been following your security posts and try to keep things updated here at home.

But, I wonder about the necessity of always being "scared of an intruder" when most of my browsing is related to maybe 5 forums at most, and the very occasional use of Google to find the safest harbor for direct downloading of a new Linux for me to load into my VB.

I never play games, just have no aptitude or patience for those 'time wasters', so I never spend any time chasing those websites. I moderate a motorcycle forum and that takes 80% of my time, I visit two other motorcycle forums to help there....

I am beginning to spend most of my free time on the Linux Mint support forums because I learn so much by following thru with each of the help posts... and I take notes of them and store them in my online Evernote file.

I just applied your Firefox hint, but is it really that critical?
I have been on the internet since it was instigated, and I have only once had a browser lock up, or a security related issue... and that was on a Windows machine over a year ago, when something borked up Firefox menus...

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Well, ask yourself: why do the Ubuntu, Mint and upstream devs go to such lengths to give us timely security updates? :wink:

Furthermore, your web browser is the one piece of software that's being attacked the most. By far. Disaster can be as close as one click too many. I'd never take unnecessary chances with that....

You're a motor cycle enthusiast. The bikers I know, all care a lot about safe driving. None excepted. Much more so, than the average car driver. I don't assume that you'll ever ride without a good helmet, sound brakes and healthy tyres.... The digital highway can be as dangerous as the physical highway.

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:20 pm
by Arch_Enemy
BG405 wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:19 pm
Arch_Enemy wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:49 pm
Even Tails has issues.
Yes.
For example, it doesn't harden your front door against the Big Red Key! :roll: :lol:
Did you have a look at their last errata? :shock:

And as for that key...indeed...

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Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:01 pm
by BG405
Arch_Enemy wrote:And as for that key...indeed...
:mrgreen: :lol:
You didn't get the badge number did you? That's misappropriation of police resources! :lol: Mind you I used to use my vice for the same purpose ...

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:36 pm
by Spearmint2
Police must be ready at all times to crack all sorts of nuts.

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:46 pm
by AZgl1500
Pjotr wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:42 pm

Furthermore, your web browser is the one piece of software that's being attacked the most. By far. Disaster can be as close as one click too many. I'd never take unnecessary chances with that....

You're a motor cycle enthusiast. The bikers I know, all care a lot about safe driving. None excepted. Much more so, than the average car driver. I don't assume that you'll ever ride without a good helmet, sound brakes and healthy tyres.... The digital highway can be as dangerous as the physical highway.
Point taken: :D

I will not leave my driveway without full ATGATT, "All the Gear, All The Time".
Gloves, Helmet full face modular Shoei, Ballistic rated mesh jacket, Ballistic rated mesh Pants, and boots.

so yes, now that I have the resource link for FF set up, you can rest assured I will take care of the browser.

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:46 pm
by Arch_Enemy
Spearmint2 wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:36 pm
Police must be ready at all times to crack all sorts of nuts.
LOL!

Re: What made you switch to Linux Mint?

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:05 pm
by hotdog789
I started a couple of months ago with Ubuntu. Basically I wanted freedom from Windows and I wanted to learn something new. I briefly tried Manjaro and Fedora, but I like the way Mint Mate looks and runs. Plus, it uses sooo much less RAM than Windows just sitting still after startup! I have Mint Mate on my desktop and laptop, both dual booting with Windows, though I hardly ever use Windows anymore. So far so good!