Where are the older Linux Mint releases?

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Re: Where are the older Linux Mint releases?

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turtlebay777 wrote:The world's mirrors still contain most of the old versions from Linux Mint 5 "Xfce" on, http://distrowatch.com/index.php?distribution=mint, and scroll down the page to the one you want. :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: indeed!!! Most websites offering older releases aren't available anymore.
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Re: Where are the older Linux Mint releases?

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nomko wrote:
turtlebay777 wrote:The world's mirrors still contain most of the old versions from Linux Mint 5 "Xfce" on, http://distrowatch.com/index.php?distribution=mint, and scroll down the page to the one you want. :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: indeed!!! Most websites offering older releases aren't available anymore.
Except the one I posted. <3
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var wrote:(still waiting for that food replicator!).
Not long to wait now. :lol:

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turtlebay777 wrote:Except the one I posted. <3
Most iso's on that link of Distrowatch can't be downloaded. At least, that's what i encountered....
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the problem with all the old ISO files is they are only as current as the release date, not a rollup or wrapup at the EOL with all updates added into them. Just for archive posterity it seems they'd remaster them at the end, but maybe that's more effort than worth it? Also, not every update would be added anyway, but at least the most important could be.
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Re: Where are the older Linux Mint releases?

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Old ISO releases are here: http://www.linuxmint.com/oldreleases.php. To update the old releases till EOL, follow these steps for the used Ubuntu package base repositories: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades. Don't use unsupported releases on the Internet unless you want to enjoy malware and phishing or would like to join a botnet.

Don't recommend others to use unsupported releases. What you do with your computer is up to you, but don't trick others into thinking using an unsupported operating system is somehow fine. It's not. It's irresponsible, naive, and dangerous.
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Re: Where are the older Linux Mint releases?

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turtlebay777 wrote:My 1963 Land Rover is obsolete but it still works and still does what it was intended to do!

'Obsolete' is used a lot on this forum, far too much in my opinion.
Ehhh.

The major difference here is that we are talking about computer security here. Many casual users do not realize that new holes are found in old software all the time.
When these hole are found, the company responsible is notified and given a time window to fix the bug. After the time window ends detailed information on the bug is published so that administrators can understand and address the issues facing them.

One consequence of this is that vulnerabilities that have been patched are also WELL documented on the internet. Sites like https://cve.mitre.org/ basically document all the bugs that exist in the software, and if you have even basic programming knowledge they basically generally contain enough information for some kid to reconstruct the same attack from his parents basement.
This is generally OK, because this information is released AFTER the patches for the bug is... But obsolete software gets none of these patches so your sitting on an OS that has many documented security flaws with easy instructions on how to construct an attack on them. Now you just need someone to try one of those attacks hoping your not worried about "Obsolete", and eventually they may randomly try you...

Its really more akin to if your Land Rover had a well documented ignition cylinder issue that allowed it to be started with any honda key, and the ignition cylinder was not replaceable. I am sure you would at a minimum worry where you parked it. The internet has A LOT of sketchy parking spots, and even the good ones get a lot of questionable passerby.
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nomko wrote:There's not much for a reason left to use old, obsolete releases other than from a "nostalgic point of view". using older versions means to don't get any support, you lack the latest updates and specially security updates, probably version conflicts between the latest program packages and old and/or outdated packages.

If your system can handle it, stick to the latest release. Else use Mint 13 (LTS).
There's still people using windows 98, although now in a Virtualbox since it won't run on the new motherboards without driver files. Seems a repository should be like a library, not just having the newest books, but older ones too. Someone might like to try out old software, get a feel for what it was like then. A lot of the younger ones today are fascinated with getting old software running on their computers, running the old games their parents played, and so forth.

Offering updated software is great. Pointing out the safety factors is good. Leaving the choice would be excellent.
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Spearmint2 wrote:
nomko wrote:There's not much for a reason left to use old, obsolete releases other than from a "nostalgic point of view". using older versions means to don't get any support, you lack the latest updates and specially security updates, probably version conflicts between the latest program packages and old and/or outdated packages.

If your system can handle it, stick to the latest release. Else use Mint 13 (LTS).
There's still people using windows 98, although now in a Virtualbox since it won't run on the new motherboards without driver files. Seems a repository should be like a library, not just having the newest books, but older ones too. Someone might like to try out old software, get a feel for what it was like then. A lot of the younger ones today are fascinated with getting old software running on their computers, running the old games their parents played, and so forth.

Offering updated software is great. Pointing out the safety factors is good. Leaving the choice would be excellent.
Choice would be excellent. Have you thought about setting up a repository so we have that choice?
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Spearmint2 wrote: There's still people using windows 98
And those people are foolish or ignorant. Windows 98 is as unsecure as it can be.
Spearmint2 wrote: although now in a Virtualbox since it won't run on the new motherboards without driver files.
Depends on if those peole are using newer systems.....
Spearmint2 wrote: Seems a repository should be like a library, not just having the newest books, but older ones too.
In a normal library that is no problem. But in the world of ICT that means offering old and unreliable packages with bugs, leaks, backdoors, not supporting the latest hardware, newer software won't be capable of using those old libraries since software evolve, offering the same package, old and new ones, in 1 repository which would be very confussing..... You don't want that, really!
Spearmint2 wrote: Someone might like to try out old software, get a feel for what it was like then. A lot of the younger ones today are fascinated with getting old software running on their computers, running the old games their parents played, and so forth.
Sure. No problem with that. Run virtualbox!
Spearmint2 wrote: Offering updated software is great. Pointing out the safety factors is good. Leaving the choice would be excellent.
There's enough to choose from. But keep in mind, even switching to another distro you still get the latest and newest version. Even with a rolling release version you always get updated with the latest packages. That's called evolution in development!

I even don't think that you would choose for an outdated, unsupported and unsecure operating system..... :roll:
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The old Mint releases are gone?

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I noticed that when I click on "All versions" only Mint 13, Mint 17 and Debian are presented. This is not a bad idea and it will be less confusing for new users when they download Mint so...good job there. :)
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Re: The old Mint releases are gone?

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RacerBG wrote:I noticed that when I click on "All versions" only Mint 13, Mint 17 and Debian are presented. This is not a bad idea and it will be less confusing for new users when they download Mint so...good job there. :)
Indeed a good job! This way users always have the latest release and not "fooling around" with obsolete versions!
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