Broken Canoe wrote:
From the roadmap listed in that thread, there are no plans to actually implement Dave Edmundson's request to Martin to add the functionality back (nothing scheduled for Plasma 5.8 either). My general feeling is that there's something of a schism between what the developers want, and what the users have had, use, and need, both in previous and current versions. Regressions are always troubling.
While KDE 4.x was excellent, 5.x hasn't lived up to my what I had hoped it would be, because of many small regressions that end up accumulating to make your workflow difficult. In the end, I switched to XFCE which does what I need it to do.
If I may, not exactly defend Plasma 5 (I haven't used it in anger yet and so I can't really comment) but put it in context. While Plasma 4 has been excellent, when it first came out it certainly wasn't. OK, there were a number of factors. Early versions of KDE 4 were really Beta and the KDE team said that clearly. But various distros ignored that and released regardless pushing KDE versiosn that were slow, bugged to hell and damn near unusable. People also complained about the change in workflow from KDE 3 to 4. It was far worse than KDE 5! It did not help that the KDE team also turned on their users blaming them for using Beta renderings of KDE 4. The jump from KDE 3 to 4 went down in IT history in how NOT to release a new UI - though the KDE 4 disaster has been far surpassed by the fiasco of Windows 8 (and, more arguably, GNOME 3 which spawned Cinnamon and Mate just to escape the GNOE 3 UI disaster.) KDE 3 was forked to Trinity in protest of the new KDE 4 - though it has not picked up any sizable user base and need specially compiled software to work with the UI. To give credit to the KDE team, they actively helped the fork to Trinity and helped the new team pick up their own code.
The KDE 5 release is nothing like as bad as the jump from 3 - 4!
Now, I confess that I don't use multiple workspaces in KDE (I always figured this was functionality screaming for regression) band so the changes don't affect me. It's keyboard shortcuts that I live and die by. That and the wonderful dolphin.
So… it could well be that KDE 5 is inferior to 4. I don't know. I haven;t used it in anger and with laptops dying around me and constant overtime I doubt I'll be able to go 5 for some considerable time, even when Mint 18 comes out. I thought I would jump but I am on all backup laptops right now and my schedule from next week is SOLID and wil remain so until my contract expires. Am now checking charging needed to ensure I make enough money in 5 days that I can take two days off!
But… whatever the problems, this is nothing like as bad as the jump from 3-4, nor from Windows 7 to 8 nor GNOME 2 to 3.
I also know that Plasma 5 is geared towards convergence - which means use on tablets and smartphones - so it means UI compromises with small screens. I don't know how that affects multiple desktops and desktop images. I know that the KDE team tried to kill such functionality in KDE and met mass protest so clearly causes major problems for the KDE team and I suspect they are willing to take on the backlash this time because they have to get the code right for convergence. I am not saying I am a big fan of convergence and, so far, nobody has managed to succeed with it or, insofar as there has been any success it has been by making laptops behave like smartphones. I am just saying that I know where KDE are going with this.
Of course, if the KDE really do the route of Unity or GNOME 3 then I will be looking at Cinnamon more closely. But, for now, I don't see that happening. Plasma 5 looks like a 2D version of 4 - with an eye on tablets - but hasn't made many concessions on the desktop for mobile devices, unlike everyone else who has gone for the Holy Grail of convergence. But there will be code compromises in Plasma 5 and some sacrifices for on the desktop for mobile. So far I am glad the effect is so little. There won't be any spectacular new functionality in Plasma 5 for the desktop because that's not where KDE is going with this.
Just putting it in perspective. I can’t assess either Plasma 5 or Cinnamon until I get more time and laptops repaired so I have to stick to what works. So I can’t tell good or bad yet!