Went back to 17.1 myself.rdonnelly wrote:I tried 18.0 and I went back to 17.3 as I use my PC for business purpose, but even some of us vets should stick with a stable release.
Also keep in mind that a newer release, and the term "new" itself, means that problems are to be expected. It's your task to help solve those problems and make the project better, if you so desire. And that's the double edged sword of it all right there. No one is forcing you to help contribute. But by contributing, at least you know that you did your part, you put your best foot forward, you gave it your best effort. At the end of the day, if the software in question is still broken, don't use it. But take then you can take pride in yourself knowing you did your part. 
This.Hoser Rob wrote:I'm seeing just too many problems reported with 18. I suspect a lot of the issues are with the ubuntu 16.04 base but not all.
Citizen229 wrote:The whiny posts are getting old. New people/maybe trolls are getting old. Mint 17.3 is the last fully polished version of Mint. If you want plug and play install it. Now Mint 18.x is the future. But like all software the future takes time. New people need to be advised if they do not like bugs to install 17.3. There should be a warning on the downloader for God's sake warning total new people of this. People come here for ease. They DL the latest version and they have zero tolerance the bugs. Then they move to other more unstable distros. Then they go back to windows. This fully sets in the windows trap that no one can make an OS like them. The community will not grow when non-tech people use a version that is not yet complete. The fault lies with them for not doing proper research. As well as the fault lies with us for not getting them on a more stable release.
I have not had one bug or bad install using 17.3 on other peoples systems.
I tried 17.3 and had a screen problem, among other issues. The mouse pointer had coordinates issue. For example, if I wanted to click on a button (let's say the coordinates were AA, BB), I had to click somewhere else for it to work (AA+100, BB+50).Citizen229 wrote:The whiny posts are getting old. New people/maybe trolls are getting old. Mint 17.3 is the last fully polished version of Mint. If you want plug and play install it. Now Mint 18.x is the future. But like all software the future takes time. New people need to be advised if they do not like bugs to install 17.3. There should be a warning on the downloader for God's sake warning total new people of this. People come here for ease. They DL the latest version and they have zero tolerance the bugs. Then they move to other more unstable distros. Then they go back to windows. This fully sets in the windows trap that no one can make an OS like them. The community will not grow when non-tech people use a version that is not yet complete. The fault lies with them for not doing proper research. As well as the fault lies with us for not getting them on a more stable release.
I have not had one bug or bad install using 17.3 on other peoples systems.
I agree with your last statement, but I disagree with your first one. Although I do partitioning and have a dual-boot machine, Mint was made so that Linux could be easier. An average computer user doesn't want or shouldn't need to do partitioning, etc. I think of it like this: the average driver uses his car. He doesn't want to or shouldn't need to know how to fix an engine problem if one occurs. It's great if you can, but not for the average user.thom_A wrote:New people need to learn how to do basic partitioning and multi-booting alongside Windows, if you like. This household have 4 bios machines average 10 years old (from time of purchase) with early Intel dual cores, 3GB ram. One is a laptop. It wasn't easy, it takes time, but you gain experience. (You have to have similar machine you don't care of breaking so you can learn worry-free.)
Over time you never have to struggle which distro to install in your system. You can install 3-4, or even 5. I don't use virtualbox. (I just don't like the idea of running a distro on top of another one. I'd rather multi-boot. Grub Customizer does all the cleaning up of the boot mess for me.)
Mint 17.3 was still installed when I added Mint 18 (now 18.1). I no longer boot in the 17.3 partition. So boot where everything works.
Who's going to test the new version if everyone sticks with old one?
Sweet desktop!trytip wrote:some may argue that just as you are advised to keep your browsers up to date for security patches and vulnerability fixes, so should you keep your kernels and distros. i don't like 18.1 because of the xed applications. why would anyone take a step back in new and updated software. i like my pluma to do my PGP for me but now can't do it in 18.1
I know the engine for a computer is the CPU; I was talking about how an average user would view it.hinto wrote:^ That analogy isn't even close. Installing a new OS is like changing the body of your car.
Partitioning is the equivalent to making sure the holes line up.
Then engine is the CPU.
-H
And there in lies the problem--- THEY DO NOT KNOW THEY HAVE OPTIONS. To compound the issue, as another user said 17.3 is hidden and 18.1 splashed in the face. To further compound as seen with most of the replies here, they will most likely never even know about it. So in effect most of you ARE FORCING.JohnBobSmith wrote:I would like to point out that, as with everything linux based, no one is forcing anyone to use software that you don't want to.
