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Re: Forum has been upgraded (report issues here)

Post by Schultz » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:00 pm

xenopeek wrote:
Doesn't NoScript also have options to block certain things always regardless of whether JavaScript is allowed on the page? I seem to recall that.
Yes, I think you're referring to "Abe" (Application Boundaries Enforcer) and XSS (Cross site scripting).

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Post by xenopeek » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:33 pm

Cosmo. wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:22 pm
But one thing is the contrary to good visibility, I mean this:
xenopeek wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:40 pm
So one nice thing is if you quote a post it now includes the date that post was made and a link to jump back to the original post
This link "icon" (I can absolutely not identify it, what it shall show) is so tiny, that it took me a complete minute to find it at all. Perhaps to set this in bold could help for visibility. If xenopeek would not had mentioned it, it would most likely never noticed it in years.
Is it better with the hooked arrow ⤴ instead of the straight arrow ↑ like it was before?

Making it bold doesn't make a difference. Enlarging the font of course works but that makes the whole line higher and that doesn't look very good with the rest. I think the hooked arrow is more discoverable. I can easily change it back if there are other opinions.

Using Firefox' Web Developer Tools I just kept editing the element and replacing the straight arrow glyph with glyphs from http://xahlee.info/comp/unicode_arrows.html till I found something that looked really better. We can also use FontAwesome glyps, cheat sheet here https://fontawesome.com/v4.7.0/cheatsheet/. But those are all, erm, too fat and look out of place.
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Post by Schultz » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:56 pm

The hooked arrow is easier to see (at least for me).

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Post by Marziano » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:02 pm

Schultz wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:56 pm
The hooked arrow is easier to see (at least for me).
For me too :)
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Post by BG405 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:38 pm

xenopeek wrote:Is it better with the hooked arrow ⤴ instead of the straight arrow ↑ like it was before?
The hooked arrow is a lot easier to see for me as well, thanks.

I did spot a possible bug, however. When clicking the Notifications and selecting the older of two links to a topic; one being "Reply from .." and the other being "Quoted by ..", the "Quoted by" link was not automatically marked as read on the linked topic, whereas I'm sure it always was before. I'll look out for a repeat of this.
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The notification count also discounted one instead of two, matching this, it's why I noticed.
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Post by Portreve » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:49 pm

xenopeek wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:27 am
Moem suggested this icon that is available from FontAwesome . Here's what it looks like in action:
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That looks nice, though in creating this response, it's obviously not set up for actual use.

My reason for creating something else is that the "drop" thing (I didn't know that's what it was until Moem herself told me that's what it was) doesn't really mean anything, especially in this context. But I do like the paintbrush, so thank you both for your contributions to that end.
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Post by xenopeek » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:56 pm

I've already added to the theme but it will take a while before it gets activated. Should pop up within a few hours.
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Post by Cosmo. » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:35 pm

Schultz wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:00 pm
xenopeek wrote:
Doesn't NoScript also have options to block certain things always regardless of whether JavaScript is allowed on the page? I seem to recall that.
Yes, I think you're referring to "Abe" (Application Boundaries Enforcer) and XSS (Cross site scripting).
Both should not be relevant here. NS can also block plugins (like Java and more), but again not relevant. The only possibly relevant plugins, that are blockable in NS are IFRAME and FRAME, but both re allowed here.

Regarding the hooked arrow: Even for my old eyes very well visible at the first sight. Perfect, thank you!

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Post by xenopeek » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:57 pm

Cosmo. wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:08 am
I want to enhance the wishlist with another suggestion:

A function, which indicates the topic starter. To give you an impression here is a link to a (random) thread in the German Firefox forum.
Found an extensions that does something similar: https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/exte ... ic_author/. But this puts "Topic Author" underneath the user's avatar image. I'd prefer what you show on your link, if we were to have something like this. They must have edited the templates or viewtopic.php script or something. I've put it on the list for future consideration.
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Post by Cosmo. » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:07 pm

xenopeek wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:57 pm
Found an extensions that does something similar: https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/exte ... ic_author/. But this puts "Topic Author" underneath the user's avatar image.
I just looked at the example screenshot and IMO it looks even better. My only objection is, that the red color for the OP is too similar to the red color for an admin.

On the other side: The position on the right below the avatar will lead to the problem, that the topic starter will not get shown as such in the list of the posts below the edit window. But it would be at least for a start an improvement. I vote for it. That still leaves the option open, that you find another solution at a later time.

I found some threads about the extension; perhaps you have seen them already, perhaps not, I cannot know, so I list them here:
https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/exte ... ec08a10179
https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/exte ... pic/147511
https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/exte ... pic/146246
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Post by catweazel » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:15 pm

xenopeek wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:56 pm
I've already added to the theme but it will take a while before it gets activated. Should pop up within a few hours.
testing 123

I don't know what you did, xenopeek, but thanks for that, and all the time you've put in maintaining the forums.

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Post by Portreve » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:46 pm

It's still a drop here. Argh... :lol:
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Post by catweazel » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:57 pm

Portreve wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:46 pm
It's still a drop here. Argh... :lol:
There is no spoon.

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Post by Lucap » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:49 am

xenopeek wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:56 pm
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The new Quote return arrow looks damn fugly to me plus it looks like its taken viagra. :P

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Post by catweazel » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:52 am

Lucap wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:49 am
xenopeek wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:56 pm
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The new Quote return arrow looks damn fugly to me plus it looks like its taken viagra. :P
While I don't agree with your description, I do think that the icon is wrong. Perhaps a page icon would be better suited.
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Post by xenopeek » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:31 am

Portreve wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:46 pm
It's still a drop here. Argh... :lol:
Needed to invoke higher powers (Clem) but it's active from 2 minutes ago. You may have to press Ctrl+F5 on a page to force refresh on your side (bypassing your browser cache).
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Post by xenopeek » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:35 am

Lucap wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:49 am
The new Quote return arrow looks damn fugly to me plus it looks like its taken viagra. :P
catweazel wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:52 am
While I don't agree with your description, I do think that the icon is wrong. Perhaps a page icon would be better suited.
So far you're outvoted by the members that think it is an improvement over the ↑ arrow. Actual suggestions (as in, which character) for further improvement are welcome though.
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Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:33 pm
Using Firefox' Web Developer Tools I just kept editing the element and replacing the straight arrow glyph with glyphs from http://xahlee.info/comp/unicode_arrows.html till I found something that looked really better. We can also use FontAwesome glyps, cheat sheet here https://fontawesome.com/v4.7.0/cheatsheet/. But those are all, erm, too fat and look out of place.
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Post by Lucap » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:43 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caret

What about a standard ASCII caret ^ or a U+028C up chevron ʌ

xenopeek wrote: ^

xenopeek wrote: ʌ

*edit*

Hmmmm Maybe not , the caret is too small and the chevron doesn't look right.

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Post by xenopeek » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:50 am

Showing the 2 options along with current one:
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I prefer ⤴. To me it more says "this, is found up there".
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Post by catweazel » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:55 am

xenopeek wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:35 am
So far you're outvoted by the members that think it is an improvement over the ↑ arrow. Actual suggestions (as in, which character) for further improvement are welcome though.
Not a problem.
xenopeek wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:33 pm
Using Firefox' Web Developer Tools I just kept editing the element and replacing the straight arrow glyph with glyphs from http://xahlee.info/comp/unicode_arrows.html till I found something that looked really better. We can also use FontAwesome glyps, cheat sheet here https://fontawesome.com/v4.7.0/cheatsheet/. But those are all, erm, too fat and look out of place.
How about fa-fast-backward, fa-toggle-up, fa-arrow-circle-o-up, fa-arrow-circle-up or fa-chevron-circle-up from https://fontawesome.com/v4.7.0/cheatsheet?
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