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My test drive of Mint 19

Post by afineman » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:12 am

Greetings All

EDIT; SORRY I forget how to put the inxi in a scrolling window

Let me get my boiler plate statement out of the way first, this is the real Mint 19, as the mirror hosts resync it starts showing up if you know where to look. I love to tinker with MY system and if something goes horribly wrong I just put back the 18.3 SSD. I'm a no-body in the Linux world and am a hack at this stuff. Any comments I may make are just one idiots opinion about my experience on my equipment. Now with that said let's begin.

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htpc@htpc-desktop:~$ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: htpc-desktop Kernel: 4.15.0-22-generic x86_64
           bits: 64 gcc: 7.3.0
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.8.3 (Gtk 3.22.30-1ubuntu1)
           Distro: Linux Mint 19 Tara
Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 v: Rev 1.xx serial: N/A
           BIOS: American Megatrends v: 2601 date: 03/24/2015
CPU:       6 core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) 
           arch: Bulldozer rev.0 cache: 12288 KB
           
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 50571
           clock speeds: max: 4214 MHz 1: 4211 MHz 2: 4214 MHz 3: 4211 MHz
           4: 4209 MHz 5: 4211 MHz 6: 4185 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GK208 [GeForce GT 730] bus-ID: 07:00.0
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 )
           drivers: nvidia (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa,nouveau)
           Resolution: 1360x768@60.02hz
           OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 128 bits)
           version: 3.3 Mesa 18.0.0-rc5 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 07:00.1
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-22-generic
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCIE Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: ath9k bus-ID: 04:00.0
           IF: wlp4s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 360.1GB (2.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Corsair_Force_GT size: 120.0GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: Corsair_Force_GS size: 240.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 110G used: 8.8G (9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 34.5C mobo: N/A gpu: 0.0:36C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 0
Info:      Processes: 207 Uptime: 11 min Memory: 1436.7/15783.2MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.3.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.191) inxi: 2.3.56 


Currently I'm rendering mode maybe because my vid card is not identified correctly (will work this out)
Every icon is different (takes a bit of getting use to)

This is installed on my HTPC so getting the Vid card correct is important (screen tearing on Netflix).
I use Kaffeine to run my dual tuners and it is odd, 4 out of the 5 icons are missing on the opening screen.
BUT at least Onboard works out of the box
The "download and upload" applet doesn't work. I use this all the time to monitor my connection speed.

With all the errors/mistakes I may have induced (trying to get things to work) I'm going to format and re-install after this post and make some new mistakes :lol: , after the reload I'll be back.

OH I put 19 Mate on my cube computer and that went with out a hitch (so far)

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mini@mini-LIVA-Q:~$ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: mini-LIVA-Q Kernel: 4.15.0-22-generic x86_64
           bits: 64 gcc: 7.3.0
           Desktop: MATE 1.20.1 (Gtk 3.22.30-1ubuntu1)
           Distro: Linux Mint 19 Tara
Machine:   Device: desktop System: ECS product: LIVA Q v: 1.1 serial: N/A
           Mobo: ECS model: PB01CF serial: N/A
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: LIVAQ_0001 date: 11/13/2017
CPU:       Dual core Intel Celeron N3350 (-MCP-) arch: N/A cache: 1024 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 4377
           clock speeds: max: 2400 MHz 1: 1433 MHz 2: 1090 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Device 5a85 bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 )
           drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1360x768@60.02hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 500 (Broxton 2x6)
           version: 4.5 Mesa 18.0.0-rc5 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel Celeron N3350/Pentium N4200/Atom E3900 Series Audio Cluster
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:0e.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-22-generic
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: ath10k_pci bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: wlp1s0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCIE Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
           Card-3: Atheros usb-ID: 001-003
           IF: null-if-id state: N/A speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: NA (-)
           ID-1: /dev/mmcblk1 model: N/A size: 31.3GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 29G used: 7.6G (29%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/mmcblk1p2
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 168 Uptime: 0 min Memory: 545.0/3764.3MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.3.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.191) inxi: 2.3.56 
mini@mini-LIVA-Q:~$ 
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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by Moem » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:39 am

afineman wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:12 am
SORRY I forget how to put the inxi in a scrolling window
The code tags do that. The button looks like </>.
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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by afineman » Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:22 pm

All

Reload Mint 19, didn't load anything else because I wanted to focus on "What the average person" would do in dealing with the video issue.

The 3 options the driver manager offered me was Nvidia 340, Standard xorg and Nvidia 390. the 340 put me into fall back Mode, Xorg put me in rendering mode and the 390 seemed OK but the Nvidia application (where you make adjustments) was essentially blank (a few check boxes)

With the 390 loaded I went to Netflix and had screen tearing so I'll add this to the list of all the little things I have found in the past 24 hours and post when the Beta Blog is open for comments.

Where this is a HTPC I'll stop testing 19 for now, but because Mate went so well in the cube computer I'll try it here and see if I get the same problems, I was always a Mate fan (started with mint 17) and accepted the screen tearing as normal until I tried cinnamon.

OH well that is the reason for a Beta, find the problems. I'll post back after loading and testing Mate on is computer.

Later

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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by afineman » Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:16 pm

Afternoon All

Loaded 19 Mate in the HTPC and it took the Nvidia 390 no problems (had full access to the set up screens)
Works great except when making fonts larger the weather app dissipaters from next to the time and I still had screen tearing on Netflix, I forgot how much I like Mate, its look and feel.

I'll tinker with it more to see if I can get the tearing to go away but I was never successful when in the Mate DE. I'll keep it on the cube computer, it works great there and I don't watch video on it.


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System:    Host: htpc-desktop Kernel: 4.15.0-22-generic x86_64
           bits: 64 gcc: 7.3.0
           Desktop: MATE 1.20.1 (Gtk 3.22.30-1ubuntu1)
           Distro: Linux Mint 19 Tara
Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 v: Rev 1.xx serial: N/A
           BIOS: American Megatrends v: 2601 date: 03/24/2015
CPU:       6 core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) 
           arch: Bulldozer rev.0 cache: 12288 KB
           
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 50569
           clock speeds: max: 4213 MHz 1: 4213 MHz 2: 4210 MHz 3: 4213 MHz
           4: 4213 MHz 5: 4213 MHz 6: 4209 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GK208 [GeForce GT 730] bus-ID: 07:00.0
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 )
           drivers: nvidia (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa,nouveau)
           Resolution: 1360x768@60.02hz
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 730/PCIe/SSE2
           version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.48 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 07:00.1
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-22-generic
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCIE Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: ath9k bus-ID: 04:00.0
           IF: wlp4s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 360.1GB (2.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Corsair_Force_GT size: 120.0GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: Corsair_Force_GS size: 240.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 110G used: 8.9G (9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 25.8C mobo: N/A gpu: 0.0:42C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 0
Info:      Processes: 194 Uptime: 23 min Memory: 791.3/15783.2MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.3.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.191) inxi: 2.3.56 
Have a nice Saturday

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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by MintBean » Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:48 pm

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System:    Host: lee-laptop Kernel: 4.15.0-22-generic x86_64
           bits: 64 gcc: 7.3.0
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.8.3 (Gtk 3.22.30-1ubuntu1)
           Distro: Linux Mint 19 Tara
Machine:   Device: laptop System: Notebook product: W65_67SJ serial: N/A
           Mobo: Clevo model: W65_67SJ serial: N/A
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1.05.01 date: 07/24/2015
Battery    BAT0: charge: 13.3 Wh 30.7% condition: 43.3/62.2 Wh (70%)
           model: Notebook BAT status: Discharging
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i7-4710MQ (-MT-MCP-) 
           arch: Haswell rev.3 cache: 6144 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 19955
           clock speeds: max: 3500 MHz 1: 1186 MHz 2: 1219 MHz 3: 1225 MHz
           4: 1176 MHz 5: 1163 MHz 6: 1209 MHz 7: 1199 MHz 8: 1189 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Card-2: NVIDIA GM107M [GeForce GTX 850M] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 )
           drivers: modesetting,nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@59.97hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Mobile
           version: 4.5 Mesa 18.0.0-rc5 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Def. Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Card-2 Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:03.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-22-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCIE Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000 bus-ID: 04:00.2
           IF: enp4s0f2 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1210.3GB (57.1% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Crucial_CT960M50 size: 960.2GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: Samsung_SSD_840 size: 250.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 228G used: 47G (22%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb2
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 97.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 242 Uptime: 2:23 Memory: 2144.1/7859.5MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.3.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.191) inxi: 2.3.56 
Just installed it on my machine. No major problems but a few minor issues:
-CPU idles around 3-4% as opposed to 1-2% with Mint 18.x. This is a little annoying as it's just enough to kick my machine's fan in during this hot weather. Hope they can sort this out.
-Still get tearing with the Nvidia card - if anything worse than with 18.x. I thought the bump to x.org server 1.19 would fix it as it seemed to on Manjaro.
-The welcome screen misses one important step - activate your firewall.

Apart from that, running like a charm.

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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by afineman » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:07 pm

Evening All

Are you ready for the strange part, My $158 cube computer from New Egg (testing as a Kiosk replacement in win 10) works flawlessly (video wise).
No screen tearing and works at a reasonable pace (go figure :shock: ), I just watched 2 episodes of 13 reasons with no tearing (I did test Mate before loading Cinnamon, it did have tearing).

Well it is 6 PM EST and time to crack the first beer and I learned my lesson many years ago about BUZZ posting so I will say "Ado" for the evening


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System:    Host: cube-LIVA-Q Kernel: 4.15.0-22-generic x86_64
           bits: 64 gcc: 7.3.0
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.8.3 (Gtk 3.22.30-1ubuntu1)
           Distro: Linux Mint 19 Tara
Machine:   Device: desktop System: ECS product: LIVA Q v: 1.1 serial: N/A
           Mobo: ECS model: PB01CF serial: N/A
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: LIVAQ_0001 date: 11/13/2017
CPU:       Dual core Intel Celeron N3350 (-MCP-) arch: N/A cache: 1024 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 4377
           clock speeds: max: 2400 MHz 1: 2162 MHz 2: 2136 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Device 5a85 bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 )
           drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 500 (Broxton 2x6)
           version: 4.5 Mesa 18.0.0-rc5 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel Celeron N3350/Pentium N4200/Atom E3900 Series Audio Cluster
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:0e.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-22-generic
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: ath10k_pci bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: wlp1s0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCIE Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
           Card-3: Atheros usb-ID: 001-003
           IF: null-if-id state: N/A speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: NA (-)
           ID-1: /dev/mmcblk1 model: N/A size: 31.3GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 29G used: 7.4G (28%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/mmcblk1p2
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 61.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 181 Uptime: 1:32 Memory: 1271.5/3762.9MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.3.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.191) inxi: 2.3.56 

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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by Portreve » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:57 pm

I just installed LM 19 about an hour ago, and I have to say it seems smoother and has fewer problems (screen tearing, for example) than LM 18.3.

Usually there's issues with beta releases, but so far this seems to be as stable as any "stable" release I've... HJLKDFRP(*&#^*$&(
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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by Portreve » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:57 pm

So... fifteen days later...

I still cannot believe what I'm running is a BETA release. In my experience, you'd never know it, and if anything I've found it runs better on my 2011 MBP than any of the 18.x or 17.x releases before it.
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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by mwbworld » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:20 pm

Portreve wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:57 pm
So... fifteen days later...

I still cannot believe what I'm running is a BETA release. In my experience, you'd never know it, and if anything I've found it runs better on my 2011 MBP than any of the 18.x or 17.x releases before it.
You're just increasing my anticipation of the full release. Oh the waiting...
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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by Moem » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:24 pm

Portreve wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:57 pm
I still cannot believe what I'm running is a BETA release. In my experience, you'd never know it, and if anything I've found it runs better on my 2011 MBP than any of the 18.x or 17.x releases before it.
Count me among those who are getting pretty eager to try 19 once it's out!
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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by trytip » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:28 pm

i'm the party pooper
You're just increasing my anticipation of the full release. Oh the waiting...
in about 9 months after mint 19 comes out users will be getting bored and start waiting for the next release of mint 20 :wink: it never ends
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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by AZgl1500 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:20 pm

Party Pooper


Running it in VB, it keeps giving me the Safe Mode for Graphics...
it is not recognizing my graphics adapter.

Card: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@60.01hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.2.8

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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by gm10 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:35 pm

AZgl1500 wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:20 pm
Running it in VB, it keeps giving me the Safe Mode for Graphics...
it is not recognizing my graphics adapter.

Card: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@60.01hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.2.8
That output is not from Mint 19 though.

I'm still a bit on the fence about Mint 19/Ubuntu 18.04 since hibernation doesn't work anymore, at least not on my laptop, and I'm quite used to using it.
That aside, 19 is very stable indeed and in particular Cinnamon runs much better (although my default is MATE) and some of the annoyances I had with Mint 18 have been fixed. The team certainly did a good job.

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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by Pjotr » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:03 pm

Been running 19 (all flavours) on several machines, ever since the release of the bèta.... No serious gripes. MATE was at first somewhat rough on the edges, but the updates fixed that. Cinnamon and Xfce just keep humming along nicely, right from the start up to now.

The demise of gksu / gksudo took a bit of getting used to (its successors are of course pkexec and admin:// ). Backward compatibility with some traditional config tweaks is mostly preserved.

The biggest change for me, was the new Update Manager. By default it relies a bit too heavily on Timeshift, if you ask me. The level system, although still available, is too much hidden.

All in all: a nice release, with an excellent codebase (Ubuntu 18.04 LTS), and with -thank God- no major disruptions of the established user interfaces. Good job! :)
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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by catweazel » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:32 pm

Pjotr wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:03 pm
The demise of gksu / gksudo took a bit of getting used to (its successors are of course pkexec and admin:// ). Backward compatibility with some traditional config tweaks is mostly preserved.
I'm sure you're quite correct on that. I'm not looking forward to the change with my fading brain.
The biggest change for me, was the new Update Manager. By default it relies a bit too heavily on Timeshift, if you ask me. The level system, although still available, is too much hidden.
I'm about to install it to see what that's all about. I give timeshift as wide a berth as I used to give to system destroy^h restore on Windwoes.

Thanks for the succinct summary.
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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by AZgl1500 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:34 pm

catweazel wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:32 pm

I'm about to install it to see what that's all about. I give timeshift as wide a berth as I used to give to system destroy^h restore on Windwoes.

Thanks for the succinct summary.
What is it about Timeshift that bugs you?

I have found it to be very solid.
and with Aptik, a nice package to keep in our toolbox.

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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by catweazel » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:02 pm

AZgl1500 wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:34 pm
What is it about Timeshift that bugs you?
I prefer to make full disk images prior to a major update. I always review the updates to decide if I need to make an image. For me, "System restore" on a system, be it Linux or Windwoes, is anathema for me. I can't help wondering if the restore broke something; it gives me the heebie jeebies. I prefer a clean system. That said, Mint 19 doesn't tell you that you can safely disable Timeshift integration with the update manager, it just tries to force you to use it. I don't like that either.
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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by AZgl1500 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:20 pm

I too, am an old died in the wool, Complete Disk Image aficionado before major updates.

today, though, I broke that rule with updating to the new kernel 4.13.0-45, but knowing I could boot into the previous good kernel let me do it without a lot of worry.

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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by Pierre » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:16 am

so, all of my 'Tests' have been within a VB, but I'm looking to replace the LM17.3
that's on a few of my PCs with LM19x series.
8)

so far, the "extra updates" have been quite large, and I'm still wondering if the release ISO,
- will include all of those updates, or maybe not ?.
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Re: My test drive of Mint 19

Post by kyphi » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:38 am

Linux Mint 19 has been my operating system since the Beta was released. It is only when adding those programmes that I had become accustomed to using that shortcomings became apparent. These related to the impermanence of gsettings instructions for sound in Aisleriot - fixed by adding the command string to Startup Applications and the absence of sound in "mail-notification" - fixed with a gconftool command string.

Two more items need a fix and will be worked on when next confined to quarters:
1. the mail-notification icon that appears on the panel when new mail arrives should open Thunderbird when clicked. It does not do so.
2. the wi-fi connection to my Epson scanner using Epson's Image Scan does not work but Simple Scan does.

Linux Mint 19 is a very solid and reliable release. I would not for a moment entertain the notion that Clem and the Team would release, even though in Beta, a buggy operating system. We all know that one human frailty is impatience and we all jostle to be at the forefront at the same time.

Now to Timeshift.
That should have been an option to enable or disable by the individual user. Currently its nags and intrusive integration into the Update Manager make it unpalatable.
I allowed a 150 GB partition for it and set it to weekly. Then I got a message that the partition was now full so I deleted all the snapshots, set Timeshift to monthly and again it went on its merry way and filled the partition.
Again I deleted all the snapshots to empty the partition and activated creation of a single system snapshot. After completion I turned Timeshift off.
Timeshift will mount its destination partition on your desktop but that can be avoided by creating a permanent mount point. My backup directory has a permanent mount point and is therefore targeted by Timeshift in its backup snapshot - hence the excessively large snapshots.

There is no manual entry for Timeshift.
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