Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Chat about anything related to Linux Mint
User avatar
MintBean
Level 9
Level 9
Posts: 2968
Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:54 am
Location: Blighty

Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by MintBean » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:20 pm

This is taken from the Mint 19 release blog post. Thought it was worth posting here as those running the beta might not check those blog posts out.

If you are running the BETA, perform a system snapshot, use the Update Manager to apply available updates, run the following commands and reboot:

Code: Select all

apt remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer
apt install libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb sessioninstaller ttf-mscorefonts-installer
sudo rm -f /etc/systemd/logind.conf
apt install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" systemd
sudo rm -f /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla

User avatar
catweazel
Level 17
Level 17
Posts: 7787
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:44 pm
Location: Australian Antarctic Territory

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by catweazel » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:39 pm

MintBean wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:20 pm
If you are running the BETA, perform a system snapshot, use the Update Manager to apply available updates, run the following commands and reboot:
Of course, they don't tell us why we should do it or what the consequences of not doing it are.
¡uʍop ǝpısdn sı buıɥʇʎɹǝʌǝ os ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ ɯoɹɟ ɯ,ı

gm10
Level 14
Level 14
Posts: 5210
Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:11 pm

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by gm10 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:51 pm

catweazel wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:39 pm
Of course, they don't tell us why we should do it or what the consequences of not doing it are.
Simple rule of thumb, if you don't know what it does then just do it. ;)
(about half of those commands are to disable the broken hibernation feature, the rest is to deliver some missing but deemed important packages - although re-installing the microsoft fonts is weird insofar as the release version doesn't even install them at all).

There are more differences between the release version and the beta than covered by those few lines by the way, in case of doubt just do a clean install, always good to start from a clean slate.
MintBean wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:20 pm
Thought it was worth posting here as those running the beta might not check those blog posts out.
Thought we'd be the ones most likely to read them properly but maybe you are right. Either way can't hurt to point it out.

KBD47
Level 7
Level 7
Posts: 1641
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:03 am

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by KBD47 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:08 pm

Yeah, the removing ms fonts things surprised me. I had to look on a fresh install of 19 to see if they were on it by default (they aren't).
In the past betas didn't seem to change very much so I frequently did not reinstall them. This is one I would definitely reinstall, especially Xfce and probably MATE as well as they needed work. Cinnamon seemed pretty good as a beta so that one would be a toss up, but not the first two.

User avatar
catweazel
Level 17
Level 17
Posts: 7787
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:44 pm
Location: Australian Antarctic Territory

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by catweazel » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:14 pm

gm10 wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:51 pm
in case of doubt just do a clean install, always good to start from a clean slate.
That's good advice though I would recommend a clean install when moving from a beta in every case, but that's just my position.
¡uʍop ǝpısdn sı buıɥʇʎɹǝʌǝ os ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ ɯoɹɟ ɯ,ı

all41
Level 14
Level 14
Posts: 5116
Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:12 am
Location: Computer, Car, Cage

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by all41 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:28 pm

catweazel wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:14 pm
gm10 wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:51 pm
in case of doubt just do a clean install, always good to start from a clean slate.
That's good advice though I would recommend a clean install when moving from a beta in every case, but that's just my position.
Yes, I did the reinstall but I retained my /home partition, and had full backup of everything, including /var/cache/apt/archives
So it was quick, simple, and sweet.
Proud to be a supporter and monthly contributor to Mint.

User avatar
kyphi
Level 8
Level 8
Posts: 2356
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:14 am
Location: The Hunter, Australia

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by kyphi » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:23 pm

The ttf-mscorefonts are not installed by default but in order to enhance the inter-operabilty of LibreOffice they could very likely be installed by a user. It appears to be a pre-emptive security issue.

https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libr ... dbc-hsqldb
Linux Mint 19.1 Cinnamon - 64bit

User avatar
catweazel
Level 17
Level 17
Posts: 7787
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:44 pm
Location: Australian Antarctic Territory

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by catweazel » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:32 pm

kyphi wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:23 pm
It appears to be a pre-emptive security issue.
What on earth is a 'pre-emptive security issue'?
¡uʍop ǝpısdn sı buıɥʇʎɹǝʌǝ os ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ ɯoɹɟ ɯ,ı

all41
Level 14
Level 14
Posts: 5116
Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:12 am
Location: Computer, Car, Cage

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by all41 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:37 pm

What on earth is a 'pre-emptive security issue'?
Not taking a viagra?
Proud to be a supporter and monthly contributor to Mint.

User avatar
kyphi
Level 8
Level 8
Posts: 2356
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:14 am
Location: The Hunter, Australia

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by kyphi » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:16 am

All those users of LibreOffice that get by without using ttf-mscorefonts would probably never end up in a position of having their system compromised by this ...
but those, who do install ttf-mscorefonts - perhaps because they have always used them - may strike an issue.

Hence, to keep Linux Mint users safe, no matter where their individual follies might lead them, this recommended security upgrade should be installed.

Preemptive to me means to create a safeguard against an undesirable possible consequence. Does your dictionary say otherwise? :o
Linux Mint 19.1 Cinnamon - 64bit

User avatar
catweazel
Level 17
Level 17
Posts: 7787
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:44 pm
Location: Australian Antarctic Territory

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by catweazel » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:28 am

kyphi wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:16 am
All those users of LibreOffice that get by without using ttf-mscorefonts would probably never end up in a position of having their system compromised by this ...
but those, who do install ttf-mscorefonts - perhaps because they have always used them - may strike an issue.

Hence, to keep Linux Mint users safe, no matter where their individual follies might lead them, this recommended security upgrade should be installed.
Compromised by what?
Preemptive to me means to create a safeguard against an undesirable possible consequence. Does your dictionary say otherwise? :o
Don't play with words. I referenced a complete phrase, not a word standing alone.

"pre-emptive security issue''
¡uʍop ǝpısdn sı buıɥʇʎɹǝʌǝ os ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ ɯoɹɟ ɯ,ı

User avatar
kyphi
Level 8
Level 8
Posts: 2356
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:14 am
Location: The Hunter, Australia

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by kyphi » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:36 am

I have given you an explanation, provided you with a notice posted on the Ubuntu Packages site, old but pertaining to a question asked earlier in this friendly chat and that is all you are going to get.
Over and out - this is getting nasty.
Linux Mint 19.1 Cinnamon - 64bit

User avatar
catweazel
Level 17
Level 17
Posts: 7787
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:44 pm
Location: Australian Antarctic Territory

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by catweazel » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:49 am

kyphi wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:36 am
I have given you an explanation, provided you with a notice posted on the Ubuntu Packages site, old but pertaining to a question asked earlier in this friendly chat and that is all you are going to get.
The link provided no information about any issue.
Over and out - this is getting nasty.
If you insist.
¡uʍop ǝpısdn sı buıɥʇʎɹǝʌǝ os ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ ɯoɹɟ ɯ,ı

User avatar
Arch_Enemy
Level 6
Level 6
Posts: 1307
Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:28 pm

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by Arch_Enemy » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:25 am

catweazel wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:39 pm
MintBean wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:20 pm
If you are running the BETA, perform a system snapshot, use the Update Manager to apply available updates, run the following commands and reboot:
Of course, they don't tell us why we should do it or what the consequences of not doing it are.
Catweazel. You look a bit happier than before. Find a good source of Scotch? :D
If so, pass it along! :wink:
I have travelled 35629424162.9 miles in my lifetime

One thing I would suggest, create a partition a ~28G partition as /. Partition the rest as /Home.
When the system fails, reinstall and use the exact same username and all your 'stuff' comes back to you.

User avatar
Arch_Enemy
Level 6
Level 6
Posts: 1307
Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:28 pm

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by Arch_Enemy » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:26 am

MintBean wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:20 pm
This is taken from the Mint 19 release blog post. Thought it was worth posting here as those running the beta might not check those blog posts out.

If you are running the BETA, perform a system snapshot, use the Update Manager to apply available updates, run the following commands and reboot:

Code: Select all

apt remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer
apt install libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb sessioninstaller ttf-mscorefonts-installer
sudo rm -f /etc/systemd/logind.conf
apt install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" systemd
sudo rm -f /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla
What if you never use the hibernate function...?
I have travelled 35629424162.9 miles in my lifetime

One thing I would suggest, create a partition a ~28G partition as /. Partition the rest as /Home.
When the system fails, reinstall and use the exact same username and all your 'stuff' comes back to you.

User avatar
catweazel
Level 17
Level 17
Posts: 7787
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:44 pm
Location: Australian Antarctic Territory

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by catweazel » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:51 am

Arch_Enemy wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:25 am
Catweazel. You look a bit happier than before. Find a good source of Scotch? :D
If so, pass it along! :wink:
I should post a picture of my fully stocked bar...

Image

How about some 20yr-old Chivas?
¡uʍop ǝpısdn sı buıɥʇʎɹǝʌǝ os ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ ɯoɹɟ ɯ,ı

User avatar
smurphos
Level 9
Level 9
Posts: 2532
Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:18 am
Location: Britisher...

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by smurphos » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:35 am

KBD47 wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:08 pm
Yeah, the removing ms fonts things surprised me. I had to look on a fresh install of 19 to see if they were on it by default (they aren't).
The fonts were a default package in the beta isos, but broken, needing a reinstall to fix. I guess the issue was that installed as a default package the Microsoft EULA can't be agreed, hence decision not to bundle them at all with the stable iso.

Handy summary of whats been fixed during the beta - https://github.com/linuxmint/Roadmap/bl ... r/Fixed.md and what is still outstanding (under non-Blocking) - https://github.com/linuxmint/Roadmap/bl ... /README.md

User avatar
Pjotr
Level 20
Level 20
Posts: 11170
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:18 am
Location: The Netherlands (Holland)
Contact:

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by Pjotr » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:03 am

MintBean wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:20 pm
This is taken from the Mint 19 release blog post. Thought it was worth posting here as those running the beta might not check those blog posts out.

If you are running the BETA, perform a system snapshot, use the Update Manager to apply available updates, run the following commands and reboot:

Code: Select all

apt remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer

Code: Select all

apt install libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb sessioninstaller ttf-mscorefonts-installer

Code: Select all

sudo rm -f /etc/systemd/logind.conf

Code: Select all

apt install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" systemd

Code: Select all

sudo rm -f /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla
See: https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3597
@MintBean: thanks! :)
Tip: 10 things to do after installing Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa
Keep your Linux Mint healthy: Avoid these 10 fatal mistakes
Twitter: twitter.com/easylinuxtips
All in all, horse sense simply makes sense.

User avatar
MintBean
Level 9
Level 9
Posts: 2968
Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:54 am
Location: Blighty

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by MintBean » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:22 am

Cheers Pjotr.

KBD47
Level 7
Level 7
Posts: 1641
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:03 am

Re: Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

Post by KBD47 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:13 am

smurphos wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:35 am
The fonts were a default package in the beta isos, but broken, needing a reinstall to fix. I guess the issue was that installed as a default package the Microsoft EULA can't be agreed, hence decision not to bundle them at all with the stable iso.

Handy summary of whats been fixed during the beta - https://github.com/linuxmint/Roadmap/bl ... r/Fixed.md and what is still outstanding (under non-Blocking) - https://github.com/linuxmint/Roadmap/bl ... /README.md
That makes sense.
Lots of work done on these releases. The Xfce beta in particular was pretty bad, but I'm glad to see my beta testing helped and two issues in particular I suggested were in the fixes for it. I've always loved that about Mint, Clem and his team listens to their users. It's why Mint has been so successful.

Post Reply

Return to “Chat about Linux Mint”