Is Linux Mint ugly?

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Re: Is Linux Mint ugly?

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:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

tgm1024..i hear windows looks nice.

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tgm1024 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 12:53 pm
Guys, I'm simply not going to tolerate this much longer.
Bye.
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Re: Is Linux Mint ugly?

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tgm1024 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 12:37 pm
This is about presentation out of the box (hence the thread).
The 'presentation out of the box' was great, which i why i became and stayed a Linux Mint user. If you don't like how it is 'out of the box', change it, even i could do that (if i wanted, which i don't).

Some people love the way Windows 10 looks (i don't, so i stick with W7), some people love the way Mac OS looks and feels (i'm on the fence), some people like how Ubuntu default looks (i don't), some people like how Linux Mint looks and the GUI works, and i'm one of them.

If your not someone that likes how Mint looks, that's bad luck, but you can change it to your preference (much as i would change it if it was not as it is).

You are talking very much about personal opinions here, throw as much marketing babble at that as you like. Are all software products looking exactly the same? Are all successful products red or bright colours? Look around to find your answer.
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Re: Is Linux Mint ugly?

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tgm1024 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 12:37 pm
jjp2145-oldtimer wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 10:24 am
I don't get it.

If you think Mint is ugly, why don't you open Themes and change what it looks like? What do we have 3 standard "window boarders", 35 standard "Icons", 35 standard "controls", 2 different "mouse pointers", and 35 different "Desktops?" That is a lot of options even without going to add/remove and looking for new ones.

Mine is Window boarders: Mint-Y, Icons: hicolor, Controls: HighContrast, Mouse Pointer: DMZ-Black, Desktop: cinnamon. It probably does not look like yours, and if you don't like it, I don't care.
You don't get it, because you didn't read what I said, much like the guys above who are attempting the high-road argument toward things that I already addressed in the first post.

I know how to change things, I'm a software engineer for decades specializing in startups. This is about presentation out of the box (hence the thread).

IF the goal is as is so often stated, to move desktop linux into a feasible desktop replacement for Windows and Mac for the masses, then two things:

1. Mint has achieved something no other Linux has done IMO. It's managed to be successful in saying "Release carefully, not right away."

I put it as "Ubuntu without the headache." Occasionally, I put it as "Linux without the uphill battle."

2. GIVEN #1 ABOVE, it's shooting yourself in the foot to continue without paying attention to standard marketing principals.
What is stopping you from making your own Linux distro that focuses entirely on what it looks like?

You claim to have rage-quit, so I probably should stop. I did read what you wrote. (1) This forum is not a startup; and (2) All of use either don't care what Mint looks like, or changed what our own computer looks like. I am also suspicious of your claim that Mint is the only successful "[r]elease carefully, not right away" Linux distro.

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There is a certain point regarding colors and branding though, does this ring a bell?:
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pukey blue
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I thought the beauty of Mint Cinnamon especially that it is so easy to change the background to what the user wants. Pale green is easy on the eyes, that's why "the Green Room". Easy to do a blue Windows look-alike if preferred.

Why does someone ask to be banned? Doesn't make sense. Simply don't open the discussion forum - ever. Done.

Then they remove it from their menu so it is never visible. Logical?

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The discussion for the past three days was never to do with the appearance of Mint, and all to do with trolling. Did none of you notice the his location?
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Yep. The same user was also arguing for like/dislike buttons on this forum. Would probably
have been very busy there.
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Re: Is Linux Mint ugly?

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<thread hijack>

So, today at Walmart, I was walking through the hardware department and saw two associates looking at one of the generators being sold. One was presumably working in the department, the other was on the phone with someone I presume was a customer, and they were trying to work through product availability and specs with said customer.

The box clearly showed "5400 watts" as its nominal output. I was 3 meters away and I could see that. However, the two were trying to work out if the unit was "fifty-four hundred watts" or "five thousand four hundred watts".

I simply had to walk away before I fell over and died laughing.

Just thought I'd share this with the community since there was evidently nothing significantly more useful going on here. Besides, maybe it'll make someone chuckle.

</thread hijack>
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Re: Is Linux Mint ugly?

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Henry Ford was reported (falsely apparently) as having said, "You can have any colour you like, as long as it's black". Look how that worked out. :D
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Re: Is Linux Mint ugly?

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tgm1024 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 12:59 pm
Ban/Termination Request.
hey, take it from me, banned from two linux forums and a few torrent forums, it wasn't hard to do on my part just be myself :lol: but if myself gets me banned wherever i go do i have a problem? no i don't, the world has a problem with me and my views 8)
drink some tea or coffee and who cares about the rest. we're all gonna die here soon maybe or not, enjoy this time to make a good looking desktop as you like it and make it better looking than developers at mint.
mint wants to have a default look like apple which i can overlook, but apple has a bit of polished shininess on their color gray and mint doesn't it's just drab and dull gray.

what i will complain about: font sizes in linux sux HUGE icons tiny fonts
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Re: Is Linux Mint ugly?

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Portreve wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:18 pm
The box clearly showed "5400 watts" as its nominal output. I was 3 meters away and I could see that. However, the two were trying to work out if the unit was "fifty-four hundred watts" or "five thousand four hundred watts".
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which one would be a better deal the fifty-four hundred or the five thousand four hundred, i would buy a generator since i need to install some day lights because the sun is too bright sometimes.
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Portreve wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:18 pm
<thread hijack>

The box clearly showed "5400 watts" as its nominal output. I was 3 meters away and I could see that. However, the two were trying to work out if the unit was "fifty-four hundred watts" or "five thousand four hundred watts".

</thread hijack>
I'd have been tempted to tell them it was actually five million four hundred thousand milliwatts, and see what they made of that.
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Re: Is Linux Mint ugly?

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Awwwwww! Now we're getting pedantic! Everyone knows it's 5.4Kw.
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in south africa that would be 5million 40hundred 40 and ....listen properly...

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Thanks, JP, made I LOL! :D
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Re: Is Linux Mint ugly?

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trytip wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:22 pm
anyone upgrading to mint 19 should do so knowing that the new experience will differ.
Can I offer a veteran's opinion here? I've been using PCs since before Windows... not as a plaything but as a tool to get stuff done. That means creative output on paper or distributable file (whether that be a PDF, a JPG, or a web page). The purpose of a PC as a tool is for it to help not hinder, and every time Windows got revamped, they changed the user interface so there was a loss of productivity getting used to the new one... and the older you get the more difficult that transition is. I stopped at Win7, unwilling to switch to Ribbon toolbars and the Metro GUI.

Why change the user interface at all? Once you've got the basics of a GUI with things to click, there is no need to move stuff around so it is hard to find. Everything else is window-dressing and pandering to fashion.

There is no need for a new version of Mint to change anything in the GUI. The nuts and bolts underneath can change, but there is no need for the GUI to change. Leave that as a choice for the user. I do not want to update Mint 18.2 (which is what I happened to have an install disc for) to 19 or 20 and find it changes what I see on the screen - provide new customisation options if you like, but don't remove old ones and leave it up to the user to adopt them if they wish.

Whether a GUI is ugly or not is in the eye of the beholder; what I need is ease of use and consistency, and I see no point in wasting clock cycles on animating the desktop (for example).

If you ever wondered why older people use out-of-date software, it's because we don't want the risk of upheaval if we update!
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Dark Owl wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 3:41 am
If you ever wondered why older people use out-of-date software, it's because we don't want the risk of upheaval if we update!
Really? Actually I am on the wrong side of 60 myself, but still using this ...

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karl@voyager:~$ inxi -Sx3
System:    Host: voyager Kernel: 4.15.0-99-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 7.5.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8 
           wm: muffin 4.4.2 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic 
... and no upheaval, compared to my LM 18.1 Cinnamon, just a different icon theme and a different wallpaper.
trytip wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:22 pm
anyone upgrading to mint 19 should do so knowing that the new experience will differ.
Well, this depends on whether users focus their attention on all the many things, which have remained unchanged compared to LM 18.x, or whether they permit themselves to be frightened by the few things, which have visually changed between the 2 major releases 18 and 19. :wink:
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Re: Is Linux Mint ugly?

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+1 Dark Owl's point

It's much like shopping at your favourite grocery store where
you have become accustomed to the aisle and shelf location and plan your
route with that in mind.

How upsetting it can be to find the store has rearranged everything
and you now have to search to find what you need. It's upsetting to your routine
to have to learn the new layout.
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Re: Is Linux Mint ugly?

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karlchen wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 6:58 am
no upheaval, compared to my LM 18.1 Cinnamon, just a different icon theme and a different wallpaper.
Fine... but explain why we should have our chosen theme and wallpaper altered without so much as a "by your leave"? Wouldn't it be more sensible to leave things as they are, and give the user the option to choose a different theme if they wish?
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