
So my question is...Why so many bad Kernels ? That's two in a row...not good guys...feel like I'm back in Windoze


Well isn't that wonderful for the both of you and so helpful too.-30 & 32 are running fine for me on two PC's.
We didn't see you ask for help, you tried to paint a bad picture about the distro to new users, claiming that bad kernels are the norm. We both confirmed that there is no such norm.
This is the reason why LMDE is getting more attractive to me. The main edition Linux Mint stability depends on Ubuntu.
LMDE stability depends on Debian.mediclaser wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:46 pmThis is the reason why LMDE is getting more attractive to me. The main edition Linux Mint stability depends on Ubuntu.
With comments like yours it's no wonder people are reluctant to complain about problems...Newsflash...Mint isn't prefect either...I'm not the only person with Kernel problems of late either. Complaining about a consistent problem is not bashing the Distro...maybe in your eyes but not in mine.
Does Mint 18 work well with the 4.4 kernels? If so I would keep using them as there is nothing to be gained from a newer kernel series other than hardware support as the 4.4 kernels will receive the same security updates as 4.15bob466 wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:23 pmWith comments like yours it's no wonder people are reluctant to complain about problems...Newsflash...Mint isn't prefect either...I'm not the only person with Kernel problems of late either. Complaining about a consistent problem is not bashing the Distro...maybe in your eyes but not in mine.
...just like Ubuntu.gm10 wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:49 pmLMDE stability depends on Debian....mediclaser wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:46 pmThis is the reason why LMDE is getting more attractive to me. The main edition Linux Mint stability depends on Ubuntu.
Then cut out the middle-man, if you get your kernels from https://www.kernel.org/ you don't have third-party bugs at all. Nor their fixes, of course.mediclaser wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:48 pm...just like Ubuntu.gm10 wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:49 pmLMDE stability depends on Debian....mediclaser wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:46 pm
This is the reason why LMDE is getting more attractive to me. The main edition Linux Mint stability depends on Ubuntu.
By going straight to Debian, you only deal with Debian bugs. But with Ubuntu, you deal with Debian bugs + Ubuntu bugs.
I'm always a big fan of people taking comments out of context. Good job. But if it helps getting less threads like this then by all means. And as I already said in the second post of this thread, if you actually cared about solving a problem you'd submit a bug report upstream where it belongs. You can rant over here all you want (now that a mod moved it to the correct section) but it won't change a thing.bob466 wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:23 pmWith comments like yours it's no wonder people are reluctant to complain about problems...Newsflash...Mint isn't prefect either...I'm not the only person with Kernel problems of late either. Complaining about a consistent problem is not bashing the Distro...maybe in your eyes but not in mine.
+1 - Mint 18 works great for me on several PCs and laptops with 4.4. I had some minor issues with 4.15 so I continued using 4.4 which runs flawless on my various diverse hardware. That's the beauty of Linux, so many options.Does Mint 18 work well with the 4.4 kernels? If so I would keep using them as there is nothing to be gained from a newer kernel series other than hardware support as the 4.4 kernels will receive the same security updates as 4.15
I'm running 4.13.0-45 and it works just fine so I'll be staying with it for now...in the past I've had a good one followed by a bad...then I might get two or three good then a bad resulting with a black screen. The strange thing is...when I installed Cinnamon 19 with the latest Kernel it was fine and because I didn't like 19 I did a clean install of Cinnamon 18.3...did all the updates including the latest Kernel I got the black screen again using the same Graphics Card.JeremyB wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:28 pmDoes Mint 18 work well with the 4.4 kernels? If so I would keep using them as there is nothing to be gained from a newer kernel series other than hardware support as the 4.4 kernels will receive the same security updates as 4.15bob466 wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:23 pmWith comments like yours it's no wonder people are reluctant to complain about problems...Newsflash...Mint isn't prefect either...I'm not the only person with Kernel problems of late either. Complaining about a consistent problem is not bashing the Distro...maybe in your eyes but not in mine.
I'v never posted a readout...nothing to hide...just never thought of it. Anyway here it is...DAMIEN1307 wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:58 pmhi bob466...we never did see a... inxi -Fxz ...readout of your system to determine just what kind of hardware etc that you are expecting that kernel to work on...that in itself could be the problem...DAMIEN
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bob@bob-B85M-D3H ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System: Host: bob-B85M-D3H Kernel: 4.13.0-45-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
Desktop: Cinnamon 3.6.7 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3)
Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine: Mobo: Gigabyte model: B85M-D3H v: x.x
Bios: American Megatrends v: F8 date: 10/24/2013
CPU: Quad core Intel Core i5-4570 (-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 25542
clock speeds: max: 3600 MHz 1: 1499 MHz 2: 1319 MHz 3: 1531 MHz
4: 1229 MHz
Graphics: Card-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
bus-ID: 00:02.0
Card-2: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 01:00.0
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: nvidia,intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau)
Resolution: 1680x1050@59.95hz
GLX Renderer: GeForce 210/PCIe/SSE2
GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.104 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card-1 Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
Card-2 Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:03.0
Card-3 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.0-45-generic
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
IF: enp3s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (18.5% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST500DM002 size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 443G used: 72G (17%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
ID-2: swap-1 size: 17.05GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C gpu: 0.0:49C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 209 Uptime: 44 min Memory: 1237.9/15920.5MB
Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35
bob@bob-B85M-D3H ~ $
And now you are troubleshootingbob466 wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:54 pmThe strange thing is...when I installed Cinnamon 19 with the latest Kernel it was fine and because I didn't like 19 I did a clean install of Cinnamon 18.3...did all the updates including the latest Kernel I got the black screen again using the same Graphics Card.
I just love false dichotomiesgm10 wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:49 pmLMDE stability depends on Debian.mediclaser wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:46 pmThis is the reason why LMDE is getting more attractive to me. The main edition Linux Mint stability depends on Ubuntu.
All of Linux stability depends on Linus.
Same difference.