I'm running Cinnamon 18.3 with Kernel 4.13.0-45...then recently Kernel 4.15.0-30 came out...result...Black Screen of Death and today Kernel 4.15.0-32 gets the same result...Black Screen of Death.
So my question is...Why so many bad Kernels ? That's two in a row...not good guys...feel like I'm back in Windoze I did expect better...maybe my expectations are too high. Newbies take note...learn how to Roll-Back a Kernel...otherwise you'll be looking at a Black Screen which seems to be the norm now.
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Reason:Appended: "Compatibility problems between Nvidia driver & kernel" to the title, because this is what turned out to be the underlying root cause
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Did you submit a bug report to Ubuntu regarding your problems with 4.15.0-30? No? Well, there's your answer why the next in the series has the same problem.
Well isn't that wonderful for the both of you and so helpful too.
We didn't see you ask for help, you tried to paint a bad picture about the distro to new users, claiming that bad kernels are the norm. We both confirmed that there is no such norm.
If you want to ask for help instead, there's a red banner with the forum rules right above your thread with a link which explains how to get help.
Well isn't that wonderful for the both of you and so helpful too.
We didn't see you ask for help, you tried to paint a bad picture about the distro to new users, claiming that bad kernels are the norm. We both confirmed that there is no such norm.
With comments like yours it's no wonder people are reluctant to complain about problems...Newsflash...Mint isn't prefect either...I'm not the only person with Kernel problems of late either. Complaining about a consistent problem is not bashing the Distro...maybe in your eyes but not in mine.
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Well isn't that wonderful for the both of you and so helpful too. :roll:
We didn't see you ask for help, you tried to paint a bad picture about the distro to new users, claiming that bad kernels are the norm. We both confirmed that there is no such norm.
With comments like yours it's no wonder people are reluctant to complain about problems...Newsflash...Mint isn't prefect either...I'm not the only person with Kernel problems of late either. Complaining about a consistent problem is not bashing the Distro...maybe in your eyes but not in mine.
Does Mint 18 work well with the 4.4 kernels? If so I would keep using them as there is nothing to be gained from a newer kernel series other than hardware support as the 4.4 kernels will receive the same security updates as 4.15
With comments like yours it's no wonder people are reluctant to complain about problems...Newsflash...Mint isn't prefect either...I'm not the only person with Kernel problems of late either. Complaining about a consistent problem is not bashing the Distro...maybe in your eyes but not in mine.
I'm always a big fan of people taking comments out of context. Good job. But if it helps getting less threads like this then by all means. And as I already said in the second post of this thread, if you actually cared about solving a problem you'd submit a bug report upstream where it belongs. You can rant over here all you want (now that a mod moved it to the correct section) but it won't change a thing.
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Does Mint 18 work well with the 4.4 kernels? If so I would keep using them as there is nothing to be gained from a newer kernel series other than hardware support as the 4.4 kernels will receive the same security updates as 4.15
+1 - Mint 18 works great for me on several PCs and laptops with 4.4. I had some minor issues with 4.15 so I continued using 4.4 which runs flawless on my various diverse hardware. That's the beauty of Linux, so many options.
We didn't see you ask for help, you tried to paint a bad picture about the distro to new users, claiming that bad kernels are the norm. We both confirmed that there is no such norm.
With comments like yours it's no wonder people are reluctant to complain about problems...Newsflash...Mint isn't prefect either...I'm not the only person with Kernel problems of late either. Complaining about a consistent problem is not bashing the Distro...maybe in your eyes but not in mine.
Does Mint 18 work well with the 4.4 kernels? If so I would keep using them as there is nothing to be gained from a newer kernel series other than hardware support as the 4.4 kernels will receive the same security updates as 4.15
I'm running 4.13.0-45 and it works just fine so I'll be staying with it for now...in the past I've had a good one followed by a bad...then I might get two or three good then a bad resulting with a black screen. The strange thing is...when I installed Cinnamon 19 with the latest Kernel it was fine and because I didn't like 19 I did a clean install of Cinnamon 18.3...did all the updates including the latest Kernel I got the black screen again using the same Graphics Card.
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hi bob466...we never did see a... inxi -Fxz ...readout of your system to determine just what kind of hardware etc that you are expecting that kernel to work on...that in itself could be the problem...DAMIEN
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hi bob466...we never did see a... inxi -Fxz ...readout of your system to determine just what kind of hardware etc that you are expecting that kernel to work on...that in itself could be the problem...DAMIEN
I'v never posted a readout...nothing to hide...just never thought of it. Anyway here it is...
I built it back in 2013 (All new parts) and was running Windoze 7 until 2016 when I switched to Linux Mint which I love. I have three HDDs in the Tower but only my main Cinnamon 18.3 HDD is connected to the Motherboard...the others are a Test HDD and my Windoze 7 HDD which I'm too lazy to wipe.
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just a thought in the dark here...have you as of yet, run the driver manager for the nvidia update for the "390" version as of yet, and then try the newest kernel...my thinking is the graphics driver just might be the problem and not the kernel...just a thought here, and also could you copy and paste the following that i listing below...am interested in what microcode you are currently running ?...the code is there and its results should look something like this...im also running an i5 intel quad core on this machine right now...not saying it will work but the systems are similar...nothing ventured, nothing gained...lol...DAMIEN
damien@damien ~ $ dpkg -l | grep microcode
ii amd64-microcode 3.20180524.1~ubuntu0.18.04.2 amd64 Processor microcode firmware for AMD CPUs
ii intel-microcode 3.20180703.2 amd64 Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs
ii iucode-tool 2.3.1-1 amd64 Intel processor microcode tool
damien@damien ~ $
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The strange thing is...when I installed Cinnamon 19 with the latest Kernel it was fine and because I didn't like 19 I did a clean install of Cinnamon 18.3...did all the updates including the latest Kernel I got the black screen again using the same Graphics Card.
And now you are troubleshooting
There have been various reports of folks having issues with the 4.15 kernels on 18.3 with 18.3 nvidia drivers. Others have no issue with 4.15 kernels and 19 nvidia drivers on same or similar hardware. The 19 nvidia drivers were several versions ahead last time I looked.
So it's a driver issue. It looks like for the 304 / 340 driver it is affecting Ubuntu 16.04 users aswell -
I did expect better...maybe my expectations are too high. 
Newbies take note...learn how to Roll-Back a Kernel...otherwise you'll be looking at a Black Screen which seems to be the norm now.
