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<SOLVED> Spying in Mint?

Post by gomerpile » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:18 am

Work on the new spying done, that will solve the boring. Install wireshark and install some software. Track the packet flow. Not only are they spying on U also gathering data about your data and usage and system. Canonical is worst then windows 10 U cannot control diddle squat however U can setup host to block the BS. Enjoy your boring day.

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Re: Boring Mint??

Post by Pjotr » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:56 am

gomerpile wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:18 am
Work on the new spying done, that will solve the boring. Install wireshark and install some software. Track the packet flow. Not only are they spying on U also gathering data about your data and usage and system. Canonical is worst then windows 10 U cannot control diddle squat however U can setup host to block the BS. Enjoy your boring day.
Prove it. Provide conclusive facts, figures and data. Or this is just slanderous malicious babble.

And use normal spelling and grammar when posting, instead of semi-cool newspeak. This forum isn't Whatsapp and we're not your classmates.
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Re: Boring Mint??

Post by catweazel » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:07 am

Pjotr wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:56 am
Prove it or this is just slanderous malicious babble. Facts, figures, data.
I think it's somewhere in between but closer to a wild exaggeration.

https://daniel-lange.com/archives/133-P ... -home.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14662088
Pjotr wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:56 am
And use normal spelling and grammar when posting, instead of semi-cool newspeak. This forum isn't Whatsapp and we're not your classmates.
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Re: Boring Mint??

Post by Pjotr » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:16 am

catweazel wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:07 am
Pjotr wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:56 am
Prove it or this is just slanderous malicious babble. Facts, figures, data.
I think it's somewhere in between but closer to a wild exaggeration.

https://daniel-lange.com/archives/133-P ... -home.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14662088
Thanks. If that's all, and if that's still current (the article is about Ubuntu 17.04) then even the words "wild exaggeration" are an understatement. :lol:

I can't stand it when people start spouting bloody FUD on this forum about Mint and Ubuntu. Prove it or shut up, is my stance...
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Re: Boring Mint??

Post by gomerpile » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:20 am

Humm prove it, and this is a boring topic because, the OS is so secure and stable, :lol: yet nobody knows how to use the report command to view the data being sent LOL.

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Re: Boring Mint??

Post by Pjotr » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:22 am

gomerpile wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:20 am
Humm prove it, and this is a boring topic because, the OS is so secure and stable, :lol: yet nobody knows how to use the report command to view the data being sent LOL.
OK, so no proof. Just bloody stupid babble it is.

Clear case of FUD:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_unc ... _and_doubt
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Re: Boring Mint??

Post by catweazel » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:28 am

Pjotr wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:16 am
Thanks. If that's all, and if that's still current (the article is about Ubuntu 17.04) then even the words "wild exaggeration" are an understatement. :lol:
When I said "wild exaggeration" I was being kind. It's still active in KDE Neon Bionic. I presume it gets killed by the Mint devs in 18.1 but I'm too lazy to start a VM and check.
I can't stand it when people start spouting bloody FUD on this forum about Mint and Ubuntu. Prove it or shut up, is my stance...
I fully agree, and it's always the same people doing it. Fortunately my tinfoil hat helps considerably :)
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Re: Boring Mint??

Post by gomerpile » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:32 am

If using a router block access to metrics.ubuntu.com and popcon.ubuntu.com
sudo apt purge ubuntu-report popularity-contest apport whoopsie
Using the opt out does not work, wireshark still shows http headers to ubuntu.com and popcon the handshake is accepted and reports sent. I blocked those address in the router and host

http://spectre9clan.com/wireshark.png You can check out the wireshark data, I have opt out and allowed ubuntu through the router and host for this shot. I will not enable popcon job at all.
I would have gave the png image however the image has to be resized and will be to small to see.
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Re: Boring Mint??

Post by Pjotr » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:29 am

gomerpile wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:32 am
If using a router block access to metrics.ubuntu.com and popcon.ubuntu.com
sudo apt purge ubuntu-report popularity-contest apport whoopsie
In my Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon, these aren't installed by default:
ubuntu-report popularity-contest whoopsie

There's only one from your list that is installed by default in my Mint 19 Cinnamon:
apport

.... which is just an automatic crash report generator for debugging.

So your "facts" are only right for 25 %. That 25 % is accounted for by apport. I fail to see what sending in an automatically generated crash report, *which is neatly asked before sending it* (you can refuse), can do to substantiate your ridiculous accusations.

"Fail to see" is too weak. "Utterly fail to see" covers it better.
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Re: Boring Mint??

Post by gomerpile » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:43 am

I edited my last post, here is the data that is required we can completely block this data with the method I explained, try for yourself use opt out and run wireshark to track the data, even after opting out the optout data is being sent. We can completely block the telemetry data
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would love to post a pic but the image has to be resized to 480 and it will be to small to see.

In further tracking on boot up I have wireshark capturing data on boot up from a network computer and the data is being set to ubuntu. we have to block to stop. I see they are going windows 10 way.
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Re: Boring Mint??

Post by catweazel » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:49 am

gomerpile wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:43 am
I edited my last post, here is the data that is required we can completely block this data with the method I explained, try for yourself use opt out and run wireshark to track the data, even after opting out the optout data is being sent. We can completely block the telemetry data
http://spectre9clan.com/wireshark.png I would love to post a pic but the image has to be resized to 480 and it will be to small to see.

In further tracking on boot up I have wireshark capturing data on boot up from a network computer and the data is being set to ubuntu. we have to block to stop. I see they are going windows 10 way.
They appear to be apt calls.
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Re: Boring Mint??

Post by gomerpile » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:55 am

That is what the opt out is suppose to do is block the opt-out inputs calls to your data, the opt data is being sent everytime we get-app get. Look at he data opt, it is looking for the opt out data the connection is being set to the opt data. Check your opt data and just see what is being sent. You will be amazed your id is sent with IP the pick shows this.
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Re: Boring Mint??

Post by Pjotr » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:55 am

Use postimage.org for posting screenshots.
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Re: Boring Mint??

Post by catweazel » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:58 am

gomerpile wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:55 am
That is what the opt out is suppose to do is block the opt-out inputs calls to your data, the opt data is being sent everytime we get-app get. Look at he data opt, it is looking for the opt out data the connection is being set to the opt data. Check your opt data and just see what is being sent. You will be amazed your id is sent with IP the pick shows this.
I'm sure I wrote apt, not opt.
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Re: Spying in Mint?

Post by Moem » Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:06 am

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Re: Spying in Mint?

Post by Pjotr » Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:13 am

Standard "Shields Up" stuff?
https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Eye-opener: you're not invisible and anonymous when on the internet. TOR and VPN help a bit, but even they aren't foolproof.
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Re: Spying in Mint?

Post by gomerpile » Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:26 am

Now MS owns git hub, they will dissect every aspect of our freedom. Freedom to use, the BS community of hardworking programmers will know how we use the none freedom OS:roll:

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Re: Spying in Mint?

Post by catweazel » Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:33 am

Pjotr wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:13 am
Standard "Shields Up" stuff?
https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Eye-opener: you're not invisible and anonymous when on the internet. TOR and VPN help a bit, but even they aren't foolproof.

Code: Select all

Your Internet port 139 does not appear to exist!
Unable to connect with NetBIOS to your computer.
Solicited TCP Packets: PASSED
Unsolicited Packets: PASSED
Ping Echo: PASSED
TruStealth: PASSED - ALL tested ports were STEALTH,
                   - NO unsolicited packets were received,
                   - NO Ping reply (ICMP Echo) was received.
Connection: keep-alive
Content-Length: 31
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language: en-GB,en-US;q=0.7,en;q=0.3
Cookie: ppag=omyu5jr4xjlbz; pcss=dt5naa1yudcbq; pico=dt5naa1yudcbq; tpag=omyu5jr4xjlbz; tcss=dt5naa1yudcbq; tico=dt5naa1yudcbq
Host: www.grc.com
Referer: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/61.0
Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1
FirstParty: https://www.grc.com
ThirdParty: https://www.grctech.com
Secure: https://www.grc.com
Nonsecure: http://www.grc.com
Session: welpequ2hwpjh
It seems I am invisible. No Tor.
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Re: Spying in Mint?

Post by catweazel » Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:35 am

gomerpile wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:26 am
Now MS owns git hub, they will dissect every aspect of our freedom. Freedom to use, the BS community of hardworking programmers will know how we use the none freedom OS:roll:
Oh, good grief. Give over. If it bothers you so much, disconnect yourself from the planet.
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Re: Spying in Mint?

Post by Pepi » Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:34 am

gomerpile has turned into a 'BillyBummer' :lol:

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