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Re: Spying in Mint?

Post by Benedetto » Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:52 am

I had to make a quick check to see if was still September 1st. and not April 1st. :lol:
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Re: Spying in Mint?

Post by Arch_Enemy » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:58 pm

gomerpile wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:18 am
Work on the new spying done, that will solve the boring. Install wireshark and install some software. Track the packet flow. Not only are they spying on U also gathering data about your data and usage and system. Canonical is worst then windows 10 U cannot control diddle squat however U can setup host to block the BS. Enjoy your boring day.
Turn off update checking. ALL Linux versions phone home at regular intervals to check on updates, and anything rolling release is even worse.
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Re: Spying in Mint?

Post by DAMIEN1307 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:25 pm

to borrow a witticism from catweazel..."rubbish"...what the OP considers "spying", is nothing more than crash reports being sent in to ubuntu, and at that, it will ask if you want to do so...just say no or you can stop it altogether by simply doing the following from terminal...

Remove Whoopsie
To completely remove the service, run this command:

sudo apt-get purge whoopsie

you can also do the same with apport which has been in ubuntu based systems since version 12.04

sudo apt-get purge apport


end of non-issue...DAMIEN
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Re: Spying in Mint?

Post by xenopeek » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:46 am

gomerpile wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:43 am
I edited my last post, here is the data that is required we can completely block this data with the method I explained, try for yourself use opt out and run wireshark to track the data, even after opting out the optout data is being sent. We can completely block the telemetry data
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In further tracking on boot up I have wireshark capturing data on boot up from a network computer and the data is being set to ubuntu. we have to block to stop. I see they are going windows 10 way.
Update Manager checks for available package updates shortly after login by connecting to your configured APT repositories—synchronizing the local package index cache with these servers—like in this screenshot the standard repositories security.ubuntu.com, archive.ubuntu.com, archive.canonical.com and packages.linuxmint.com (see contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list or output of inxi -r for your configured APT repositories). This is basic and obvious system functionality. Auto-refresh interval of package index cache can be configured in Update Manager's preferences. Automatic start of mintUpdate (which in turn starts the timer for first auto-refresh) can be disabled in Startup Programs.

catweazel wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:07 am
I think it's somewhere in between but closer to a wild exaggeration.

https://daniel-lange.com/archives/133-P ... -home.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14662088
Just to answer on that also. While the motd-news unit and timer are both active, Linux Mint sets the following defaults:
- ENABLED=0 in /etc/default/motd-news (as per recommendation in the linked article)
- Blanks the motd-news related files in /etc/update-motd.d/, leaving only the ESM and Livepatch files intact for notifying users of the status of those two (default is disabled for both)
There's no ping-back to Canonical servers for motd-news.

gomerpile wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:32 am
If using a router block access to metrics.ubuntu.com and popcon.ubuntu.com
sudo apt purge ubuntu-report popularity-contest apport whoopsie
As others answered already, only apport is installed and it doesn't send anything without user action.

Think this topic is asked and answered.
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Re: Spying in Mint?

Post by gm10 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:28 am

xenopeek wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:46 am
Think this topic is asked and answered.
I don't think this topic was ever about an answer. But just to be annoying, I'll throw this into the mix:

/etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf

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Re: Spying in Mint?

Post by Pjotr » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:50 am

gm10 wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:28 am
xenopeek wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:46 am
Think this topic is asked and answered.
I don't think this topic was ever about an answer. But just to be annoying, I'll throw this into the mix:

/etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf
OMG, systemd is phoning home! :lol:
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Re: Spying in Mint?

Post by Faust » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:04 am

Pjotr wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:50 am
OMG, systemd is phoning home! :lol:

Let's not start that one off again ....
..... and please don't use the "s" word , especially not on a Sunday ..... :lol:

Not so much a system problem , much more of a Wireshark interpretation problem ....
.... how unusual !
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Re: <SOLVED> Spying in Mint?

Post by c++ » Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:55 am

gomerpile wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:18 am
Work on the new spying done, that will solve the boring. Install wireshark and install some software. Track the packet flow. Not only are they spying on U also gathering data about your data and usage and system. Canonical is worst then windows 10 U cannot control diddle squat however U can setup host to block the BS.
T R O L L and FUD ! ! !

btw : close this asap

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Re: <SOLVED> Spying in Mint?

Post by MintBean » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:04 am

Holy Histrionics, Batman!

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Re: Boring Mint??

Post by Portreve » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:52 am

Pjotr wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:56 am
And use normal spelling and grammar when posting, instead of semi-cool newspeak.
That response is double-plus good.
I'm so down wit' dat', yo, dass ich unter dem Beton bin.

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Re: <SOLVED> Spying in Mint?

Post by BG405 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:21 am

Portreve wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:52 am
Pjotr wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:56 am
And use normal spelling and grammar when posting, instead of semi-cool newspeak.
That response is double-plus good.
Yes, the OP using "newspeak" whilst railing against "Big Brother" is a bit ironic, isn't it? :wink:
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Re: <SOLVED> Spying in Mint?

Post by xenopeek » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:02 pm

Let's please keep it friendly folks.
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Re: <SOLVED> Spying in Mint?

Post by trytip » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:17 pm

catweazel wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:33 am
Pjotr wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:13 am
Standard "Shields Up" stuff?
https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
Eye-opener: you're not invisible and anonymous when on the internet. TOR and VPN help a bit, but even they aren't foolproof.
It seems I am invisible. No Tor.
everyone gets the same STEALTH result including win10 users unless you specifically open/close ports for things like torrents or your router is modified. i used to get a FAIL but that was when i used Deluge for torrents with my old router on which i would manually open 3 ports for deluge to use.
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Re: <SOLVED> Spying in Mint?

Post by c++ » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:26 pm

DO NOT think so !

this post MUST BE send directly to t r a s h . . .
Let's please keep it friendly folks

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Re: <SOLVED> Spying in Mint?

Post by Moem » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:36 pm

c++ wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:26 pm
this post MUST BE send directly to t r a s h . . .
Kindly leave the modding to the moderators. If we feel that it must be, we will make it happen.
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Re: <SOLVED> Spying in Mint?

Post by Arch_Enemy » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:27 pm

xenopeek wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:02 pm
Let's please keep it friendly folks.
You take all the fun out of it, x.... :?
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One thing I would suggest, create a partition a ~28G partition as /. Partition the rest as /Home.
When the system fails, reinstall and use the exact same username and all your 'stuff' comes back to you.

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Re: <SOLVED> Spying in Mint?

Post by gm10 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:49 am

Why has this thread died down? I need my entertainment.

Look, they're out to get you, it's all hidden in the small-print that you never read:

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apport (2.20.9-0ubuntu7.3) bionic; urgency=medium

[...]

  * Assume if no whoopsie that crash reporting is enabled:
    As the old configuration that was a whoopsie configuration file that was
    that was never updated by the whoopsie API, we assume that no
    whoopsie installed (not the default) == manual send report is allowed.
    If people want to disable crash reporting:
    - get whoopsie installed and disable crash reporting in g-c-c
    - uninstall apport
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Re: <SOLVED> Spying in Mint?

Post by smurphos » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:41 pm

gm10 wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:49 am
Why has this thread died down? I need my entertainment.

Look, they're out to get you, it's all hidden in the small-print that you never read:

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apport (2.20.9-0ubuntu7.3) bionic; urgency=medium
[...]
  * Assume if no whoopsie that crash reporting is enabled:
That is somewhat cheeky... :|

Perhaps the Mint team should make whoopsie with a no crash reports config a dependency of mintreport along with apport...
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Re: <SOLVED> Spying in Mint?

Post by gm10 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:58 pm

Cheeky indeed. That "opt-out" possibility is so well hidden in some rather long patch-notes (I greatly shortened them) it's almost funny.
smurphos wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:41 pm
Perhaps the Mint team should make whoopsie with a no crash reports config a dependency of mintreport along with apport...
Or just remove apport. Mint already doesn't include whoopsie. I always remove apport post-install, not missing it.
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Re: <SOLVED> Spying in Mint?

Post by Arch_Enemy » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:07 pm

gm10 wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:58 pm
Checkie indeed. That "opt-out" possibility is so well hidden in some rather long patch-notes (I greatly shortened them) it's almost funny.
smurphos wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:41 pm
Perhaps the Mint team should make whoopsie with a no crash reports config a dependency of mintreport along with apport...
Or just remove apport. Mint already doesn't include whoopsie. I always remove apport post-install, not missing it.
I just checked, apparently it is not installed by default.
I have travelled 35629424162.9 miles in my lifetime

One thing I would suggest, create a partition a ~28G partition as /. Partition the rest as /Home.
When the system fails, reinstall and use the exact same username and all your 'stuff' comes back to you.

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