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Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:40 am
by MurphCID
Mint just works. 'nuff said.

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:43 am
by catweazel
MurphCID wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:40 am
Mint just works. 'nuff said.
So does Windwoes.

Horses for courses.

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:54 am
by MurphCID
catweazel wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:43 am
MurphCID wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:40 am
Mint just works. 'nuff said.
So does Windwoes.

Horses for courses.
Yeah, 45 minute updates, seven hour upgrades (if it works), spyware, bloatware, and did I mention spyware?

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:55 am
by catweazel
MurphCID wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:54 am
catweazel wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:43 am
MurphCID wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:40 am
Mint just works. 'nuff said.
So does Windwoes.

Horses for courses.
Yeah, 45 minute updates, seven hour upgrades (if it works), spyware, bloatware, and did I mention spyware?
Well, yes, but it still works. People wouldn't use it otherwise.

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:14 am
by MurphCID
catweazel wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:55 am
MurphCID wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:54 am
catweazel wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:43 am


So does Windwoes.

Horses for courses.
Yeah, 45 minute updates, seven hour upgrades (if it works), spyware, bloatware, and did I mention spyware?
Well, yes, but it still works. People wouldn't use it otherwise.
I agree, but man is it annoying.

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:19 am
by catweazel
MurphCID wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:14 am
catweazel wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:55 am
MurphCID wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:54 am


Yeah, 45 minute updates, seven hour upgrades (if it works), spyware, bloatware, and did I mention spyware?
Well, yes, but it still works. People wouldn't use it otherwise.
I agree, but man is it annoying.
lol - yes. After using linux and having all the customisation options available, Windwoes is quite ugly and very ungainly.

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:53 pm
by BG405
Muscularwombats wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:22 am
Manjaro unfortunately had 2 separate bugs on their main/stable repo that took down my system twice within a month (maybe two months).
...
Unfortunate as I really love the pacman package manager, as well as the amazing AUR
Were those bugs during the second half of 2018 by any chance? I had one which screwed up the graphics display, couldn't even get a useable display in a TTY which is a real show-stopper unless I could have fixed it via chroot .. in fact, Manjaro has a rather easy-to-use tool for this .. "mhwd-chroot" .. I didn't bother in that case & reinstalled, preserving /home and /DATA partitions.

Whilst I fully agree that Pacman is great, there are a few issues with "dependency hell" still present with regards to the packages available in the AUR. This is to be expected I think but, some stuff is evidently easier to install on Ubuntu-based systems as a result, even if it isn't necessarily the latest version. With rolling-release OSes like Manjaro, one must remember to update the system AND reboot before installing new packages, not a real issue with point-releases like Mint. That is also a consideration to take into account when choosing your OS & is easily overlooked. I did.
catweazel wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:19 am
After using linux and having all the customisation options available, Windwoes is quite ugly and very ungainly.
Two serious understatements there IMHO .. :mrgreen:

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:43 am
by catweazel
BG405 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:53 pm
catweazel wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:19 am
After using linux and having all the customisation options available, Windwoes is quite ugly and very ungainly.
Two serious understatements there IMHO .. :mrgreen:
Only because the mods would be on to me if I used the applicable expletives :)

<aside>
Hi, mods! :)

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:33 am
by lsemmens
I had the misfortune today to have to install gimp in a windwoes machine. My grandson had to post a photo montage for schoolwork. Simple, so I thought, none of the apps supplied (by the school) worked as intended. In the end I loaded Gimp which did, in the end, do exactly as intended. However....the windoze interface is no where as clean and tidy as that of Mint. I wish I could install Linux on his machine and let him use that, However, the school supplies the machine and only supports M$ with their apps.

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:45 am
by MurphCID
Dependency h*ll is and was a major Linux problem, and I think it really hurt the adoption of Linux vice Winders. I remember that from my early days with Mandrake Linux.

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:46 am
by MurphCID
catweazel wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:43 am
BG405 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:53 pm
catweazel wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:19 am
After using linux and having all the customisation options available, Windwoes is quite ugly and very ungainly.
Two serious understatements there IMHO .. :mrgreen:
Only because the mods would be on to me if I used the applicable expletives :)

<aside>
Hi, mods! :)
Tell us how you REALLY feel :) I still have Winders for Photoshop, iTunes, and games.

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:56 am
by catweazel
MurphCID wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:46 am
Tell us how you REALLY feel :) I still have Winders for Photoshop, iTunes, and games.
Windwoes 10 deserves a thorough ridiculing... the installation process goes like this...
Create a super memorable password
Make sure to pick something you'll absolutely remember.
On the next screen you are forced to...
Create security questions for this account
Just in case you forget your password, choose 3 questions, and make sure your answers are unforgettable.
On another screen you must deselect six options, including...
Tailored experiences
Let Microsoft offer you tailored experiences based on the diagnostic data you have chosen (either basic or full). Tailored experiences mean personalised tips, ads and recommendations to enhance Microsoft products and services to your needs.
Talk about invasive. And the gobbledegook. How they can class what sites I visit or products I view as 'diagnostic' is beyond me.

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:21 am
by MurphCID
catweazel wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:56 am
MurphCID wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:46 am
Tell us how you REALLY feel :) I still have Winders for Photoshop, iTunes, and games.
Windwoes 10 deserves a thorough ridiculing... the installation process goes like this...
Create a super memorable password
Make sure to pick something you'll absolutely remember.
On the next screen you are forced to...
Create security questions for this account
Just in case you forget your password, choose 3 questions, and make sure your answers are unforgettable.
On another screen you must deselect six options, including...
Tailored experiences
Let Microsoft offer you tailored experiences based on the diagnostic data you have chosen (either basic or full). Tailored experiences mean personalised tips, ads and recommendations to enhance Microsoft products and services to your needs.
Talk about invasive. And the gobbledegook. How they can class what sites I visit or products I view as 'diagnostic' is beyond me.
LOL! ;) This is so true, and funny. No, I don't want to have a Microsoft account, NO! I don't want you to track me everywhere!, No! I don't want to give you diagnostic data! Ugh.

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:04 am
by mediclaser
MurphCID wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:45 am
Dependency h*ll is and was a major Linux problem, and I think it really hurt the adoption of Linux vice Winders. I remember that from my early days with Mandrake Linux.
Linus Torvalds mentioned something like this in a Q&A session (DebConf 14?) on the reasons why Linux has not overtaken the desktop yet (and probably never will).

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:40 am
by MurphCID
mediclaser wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:04 am
MurphCID wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:45 am
Dependency h*ll is and was a major Linux problem, and I think it really hurt the adoption of Linux vice Winders. I remember that from my early days with Mandrake Linux.
Linus Torvalds mentioned something like this in a Q&A session (DebConf 14?) on the reasons why Linux has not overtaken the desktop yet (and probably never will).
Mint really goes a long way to fixing this problem, and I, personally think, that Mint is ready for Prime Time. I remember the agony in Mandrake of trying to find (and understand) what I needed to load a program, and make it work. What dependencies I needed, and where to go find them. It made me give up.

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:46 am
by catweazel
MurphCID wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:40 am
Mint really goes a long way to fixing this problem, and I, personally think, that Mint is ready for Prime Time. I remember the agony in Mandrake of trying to find (and understand) what I needed to load a program, and make it work. What dependencies I needed, and where to go find them. It made me give up.
Only the most hardened geek wouldn't walk away from that :)

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:48 am
by MurphCID
catweazel wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:46 am
MurphCID wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:40 am
Mint really goes a long way to fixing this problem, and I, personally think, that Mint is ready for Prime Time. I remember the agony in Mandrake of trying to find (and understand) what I needed to load a program, and make it work. What dependencies I needed, and where to go find them. It made me give up.
Only the most hardened geek wouldn't walk away from that :)
I did not (and still do not) qualify as a hardened geek. I am a newbie and admit it. I am constantly in awe of you guys.

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:08 am
by catweazel
MurphCID wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:48 am
I did not (and still do not) qualify as a hardened geek. I am a newbie and admit it. I am constantly in awe of you guys.
The only thing to be awed at is google-fu lol

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:09 am
by lsemmens
MurphCID wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:46 am
Tell us how you REALLY feel :) I still have Winders for Photoshop, iTunes, and games.
Gimp is plenty good enough to replace photoshop.
If you must rely on bits of fruit, you deserve what you get. (FWIW, SWMBO has a couple of bits of fruit and neither of them rely on iTunes to talk to any computers in our home.
games: I thought only kids played games. ;)

Re: Why did you decide to install Linux Mint??

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:15 am
by MurphCID
lsemmens wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:09 am
MurphCID wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:46 am
Tell us how you REALLY feel :) I still have Winders for Photoshop, iTunes, and games.
Gimp is plenty good enough to replace photoshop.
If you must rely on bits of fruit, you deserve what you get. (FWIW, SWMBO has a couple of bits of fruit and neither of them rely on iTunes to talk to any computers in our home.
games: I thought only kids played games. ;)
lol