Flat 'Modern' GUI design and where it comes from (and reflections of Clems March 2019 blog post in relation to that)

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Moem wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 5:56 pm
Portreve wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 5:49 pm
I don't know what it was called, but I strongly prefer the UI design Google used with Android 4.x and earlier.
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It is all in the eye of the beholder. If I had a choice between Mint X, Mint Y and the one in the last two posts I would choose it.
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Re: Flat 'Modern' GUI design and where it comes from (and reflections of Clems March 2019 blog post in relation to that)

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farkas wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 9:42 pm
Is there a way to get it?
Sure, buy an old Android smartphone. ;) (and on a more serious note, there's probably a Linux theme that was made to look like it for there are hundreds if not thousands of Linux themes out there, just go and discover)
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Re: Flat 'Modern' GUI design and where it comes from (and reflections of Clems March 2019 blog post in relation to that)

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Portreve wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 6:24 pm
Moem wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 5:56 pm
Portreve wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 5:49 pm
I don't know what it was called, but I strongly prefer the UI design Google used with Android 4.x and earlier.
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That's the one!
It was called Holo. I loved it. Very Tron-like.
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Re: Flat 'Modern' GUI design and where it comes from (and reflections of Clems March 2019 blog post in relation to that)

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Shiratori wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 4:14 am
It was called Holo. I loved it. Very Tron-like.
Oh, I remember that now! Yeah. And I guess you're right about the similarities.

BTW, nice avatar. I grew up in the 70s on Sandy Frank's import of Gatchaman, Battle of the Planets. It wasn't until 20 years later that I knew there was such a thing as "Anime". :lol:
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Re: Flat 'Modern' GUI design and where it comes from (and reflections of Clems March 2019 blog post in relation to that)

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Moem wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 4:20 pm
cliffcoggin wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 3:21 pm

Well perhaps we have different ideas of what constitutes flat design. The Mint X themes you showed earlier all display the elements that I consider poor aspects of flat design, namely insipid colours, indistinct borders, & low contrast controls, which together conspire to present a vague and hard to read interface.
Right, but that doesn't make them flat. There are gradients and shadows, making it a non-flat theme.
Words have meanings and 'flat design' doesn't mean what you are describing here.
Fair enough Moem and gm10. Guilty as charged, and sorry for not knowing the correct term. Can anyone enlighten me how this modern style should be referred to?
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cliffcoggin wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:33 pm
Can anyone enlighten me how this modern style should be referred to?
You mean the grey on grey one? How about "ugly and hard on the eyes"? :lol: :P (I don't know that it has a name as an overreaching concept)
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I hope people who start these kinds of posts, reply to them, and read them, understand that from a distro point of view you simple cannot win this. No matter what you do some users will love it and some will hate it. It's just how it goes. For those that have this opinion that no one wants this newer style of flat theme, trying going back and reading the comments in many of the blog posts from before Mint-Y existed. It only came into being because of the large amount of user feedback that people wanted that style. Flat style themes like Arc are hugely popular. And yes, people use them by choice because that is what they want. But we knew not everyone would want this. It's why so much effort is put into also keeping Mint-X up to date. So the people who wanted the same style they always had could use it easily.
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So "flat" vs "not flat" is basically just the style of icons (and NOT, say, a bunch of icons to pick from VS a pull-down menu)? If that's correct they probably shouldn't be using the term "GUI design".
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Re: Flat 'Modern' GUI design and where it comes from (and reflections of Clems March 2019 blog post in relation to that)

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Flemur wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:10 pm
So "flat" vs "not flat" is basically just the style of icons
And other visual elements, yes.
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For me i am against flat themes as they have become too common and seems like every app blends into the next.
Its one thing to want uniformity its another to make it dull and boring.
I really miss glassy looks like windows 7's aero or gradients like the older versions of OSX's aqua theme, now both OSX and windows 10 are flat paper, no personality same goes with the newer versions of the google apps that are all white and all blend into eachother.
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Re: Flat 'Modern' GUI design and where it comes from (and reflections of Clems March 2019 blog post in relation to that)

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Flemur wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:10 pm
So "flat" vs "not flat" is basically just the style of icons......
Not the way i've seen it rolled out (Flat Design that is). As i mentioned up thread it goes hand in hand with streamlining/simplification and loss of function that is an inexcapable part of being DNA linked to mobile usage, and by 'mobile' i mean hand held devices (not laptops that can actually function as full desktop replacements). I have yet to see one example of Flat Design post Windows 8 where this is not the case (Windows 10 a prime example vs Windows 7 in terms of functional and detailed GUI where user control is a primary concern etc).

We are living in the era of the smart-phone people and that has lots of negatives (and not justin GUI design and function!).

When i see a Flat Design i don't think, "wow that looks cool and modern!", i think "God that is going to be broken and half functional compared to what i'm used to and prefer!", and i've not had an experience to change that yet! ;)
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