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...time for Linux Mint to go. Huh?

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Where do these characters come from?
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/sc ... int-to-go/
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Re: ...time for Linux Mint to go. Huh?

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I have a headache now - thanks! :P

I just don't understand the attacks on Mint lately. Mint is NOT just a showcase for Cinnamon; that argument doesn't hold water. To me, Mint is a better version of Ubuntu. I run XFCE, and Mint's implementation blows away Xubuntu (and every other XFCE spin I've tried, to be honest).
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Re: ...time for Linux Mint to go. Huh?

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ajgringo619 wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 2:06 pm
I just don't understand the attacks on Mint lately.
Clem's blog post opened the door to them I should think. But that particular author you linked has always been hating on Mint, so nothing surprising there.
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Interesting article. The author does have some valid points. But Mint is indeed more than Cinnamon:
https://translations.launchpad.net/linu ... t/+lang/nl

Furthermore, the load on the Mint dev team has been decreased considerably by focusing exclusively on the LTS Ubuntu's as code base.
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I'm sure Clem wishes he could go back and change the tone of that blog, hindsight being 20/20. The Internet troll farms breed out-of-control whenever they sense a chance to pounce on anything even remotely negative.
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ajgringo619 wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 2:06 pm
I have a headache now - thanks! :P

I just don't understand the attacks on Mint lately. Mint is NOT just a showcase for Cinnamon; that argument doesn't hold water. To me, Mint is a better version of Ubuntu. I run XFCE, and Mint's implementation blows away Xubuntu (and every other XFCE spin I've tried, to be honest).
You are welcome :lol:
Lots of well-reasoned nonsense in that post.
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ajgringo619 wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 2:06 pm
Mint's implementation blows away Xubuntu
Hm. As a matter of fact, it does not do so.
On my Acer Aspire One D260, 2 Mint xfce installations, Mint 18.1 xfce 32-bit and Mint 18.3 xfce 32-bit, co-exist with Xubuntu 18.04.2 32-bit.
So far neither of the 2 Mint xfce systems has started any attempt at blowing away the Xubuntu 18.04.2 system. :wink:
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karlchen wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 3:10 pm
ajgringo619 wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 2:06 pm
Mint's implementation blows away Xubuntu
Hm. As a matter of fact, it does not do so.
On my Acer Aspire One D260, 2 Mint xfce installations, Mint 18.1 xfce 32-bit and Mint 18.3 xfce 32-bit, co-exist with Xubuntu 18.04.2 32-bit.
So far neither of the 2 Mint xfce systems has started any attempt at blowing away the Xubuntu 18.04.2 system. :wink:
I must have installed the bully edition. :lol:
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I just saw my second Tech journal article calling for Mint to fold.

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Yesterday I saw my second article calling for Mint to fold because some other distro became obsolete and decided to fold.

The argument was that Mint is no longer needed, as other distros make it easy to install proprietary multimedia codec and other proprietary software. The author wrote that developer time would be better spent making Cinnamon as distro agnostic as possible.

BULLSHIT! I *like* Mint

I'm guessing this just a case of a writer needing something to write about and inventing something out of nothing to write about.

Anyone if the the people who make Mint are paying attention to those articles and have any intention of going away?

I hope not, again, I like Mint.
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Re: I just saw my second Tech journal article calling for Mint to fold.

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tinker123 wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 10:40 am
Anyone if the the people who make Mint are paying attention to those articles and have any intention of going away?
Mint is still making good money, so I wouldn't worry about that for now.
tinker123 wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 10:40 am
The argument was that Mint is no longer needed, as other distros make it easy to install proprietary multimedia codec and other proprietary software. The author wrote that developer time would be better spent making Cinnamon as distro agnostic as possible.

BULLSHIT! I *like* Mint
Well, it would theoretically be desirable to have a less fragmented Linux market, for it would help the outside perception. On the other hand, there's a reason why it's fragmented, same as there's a reason why we're all not just forgetting about Linux and using Windows instead. So at the end of the day the article is indeed just nonsense. But I'm sure it's good clickbait, too.
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Re: ...time for Linux Mint to go. Huh?

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Y'know, I'm getting really tired of you folks peeking into my news feed¹. :lol:

Seriously, this is the third thread in a row on this subject. Clem by now is probably getting sick to death of having his words deliberately twisted to give tech tabloids fodder for their troll-like garbage.


¹ I'm considering sending LM admins and mods screenshots of my news feed so they can pre-empt further threads on how LM is "troubled" or "in chaos" or "over the hill" or whatever other garbage.
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Re: ...time for Linux Mint to go. Huh?

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Just my two cents.

I thought the article had a point. I came to Mint years ago because of the included codecs. For a variety of reasons, I've remained with Mint and been a fan. The Cinnamon desktop, is the biggest of those reasons, and Cinnamon is more important to me than Mint.


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Recent flack over the future of Mint

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Just wanted to post a link to "Big Daddy Linux" youtube weekly discussions on Linux topics. A big one was in regard to how the demise of Antergos, et al, bled over to problems with a possible future of Mint. I'm posting the link to the youtube feature, but you need to advance to roughly 1:30 into the clip for the Mint discussion. Perhaps this might be interesting to some of you:

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Re: Recent flack over the future of Mint

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curtvaughan wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:45 am
A big one was in regard to how the demise of Antergos, et al, bled over to problems with a possible future of Mint.
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Mint will probably be gone if public donations drop drastically but .......

Donations in Apr 2018 = US$11,275
Donations in Oct 2018 = US$11,535
Donations in Apr 2019 = US$24,149
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michael louwe wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:11 am
curtvaughan wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:45 am
A big one was in regard to how the demise of Antergos, et al, bled over to problems with a possible future of Mint.
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Mint will probably be gone if public donations drop drastically but .......

Donations in Apr 2018 = US$11,275
Donations in Oct 2018 = US$11,535
Donations in Apr 2019 = US$24,149
I think it's vile and unjustified to suggest that the only reason for the existence of Mint is money. Of course they're receiving money, but that's not the main incentive for the Mint devs.

The Mint devs are Linux enthusiasts who want to create the best possible desktop Linux OS. The money is what makes it possible for them to pursue this goal.
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Re: Recent flack over the future of Mint

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Pjotr wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:59 am
michael louwe wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:11 am
curtvaughan wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:45 am
A big one was in regard to how the demise of Antergos, et al, bled over to problems with a possible future of Mint.
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Mint will probably be gone if public donations drop drastically but .......
I think it's vile and unjustified to suggest that the only reason for the existence of Mint is money.
Nothing vile about it, if Mint stops making money then Clem will shut it down for sure. But seems his emo March blog worked out, all publicity is good publicity and all those clickbait articles that sprung from it seem to have resulted in increased interest in Mint and thus donations. :)
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gm10 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:04 am
if Mint stops making money then Clem will shut it down for sure.
Of course, because then he simply can't afford to spend all his working hours and efforts on trying to create the best possible desktop Linux OS. But the money is not the goal; the Mint project is the goal.

I think the Mint project, from which we all reap the fruits, can best be benefited by us trying not to damage the enthusiasm of the Mint devs for their project. :mrgreen:
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Re: ...time for Linux Mint to go. Huh?

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I'm not sure how anyone takes these articles seriously. The minute you read the line about how Mate is in maintenance mode, all the authors credibility goes right out the window.
When I give opinions, they are my own. Not necessarily those of any other Linux Mint developer or the Linux Mint project as a whole.
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