Kernel 5.0 is it dangerous to upgrade?

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Re: Kernel 5.0 is it dangerous to upgrade?

Post by MurphCID » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:50 pm

michael louwe wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:35 pm
MurphCID wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:44 am
Oh, that is interesting, I thought the LTS Kernels were official with Kernel.org? So Ubuntu can put anything it wants in the Kernel, and therefore it is no longer Official?
IIRC, from Debian 9 and Ubuntu 16.04 onward, following the FOSS policy, the Debian and Ubuntu kernels have stripped all proprietary or closed source software(eg the binary blobs of OEM hardware device drivers) from the upstream Linux kernel. Hence, users have the option to install "3rd-party software, graphics, wifi drivers and codecs" when installing Ubuntu or Linux Mint.
Ah, ok that makes sense.

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Re: Kernel 5.0 is it dangerous to upgrade?

Post by all41 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:45 am

@gm10
My laptop's battery lasts twice the marketed duration (up to 8 hours usually), I'm not complaining even a little.
Do tell. What is that laptop make and model?

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Re: Kernel 5.0 is it dangerous to upgrade?

Post by MurphCID » Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:41 am

all41 wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:45 am
@gm10
My laptop's battery lasts twice the marketed duration (up to 8 hours usually), I'm not complaining even a little.
Do tell. What is that laptop make and model?
Yes please.

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Re: Kernel 5.0 is it dangerous to upgrade?

Post by gm10 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:54 am

Just a low cost Asus one that I won't recommend since they partially broke the touchpad with a BIOS update and their support basically told me to go f myself, also the first HDD in it died within a week, so never again Asus for me. But the battery works (and was the main factor I was looking for). :P
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Re: Kernel 5.0 is it dangerous to upgrade?

Post by smgordon1259 » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:49 pm

I have been using 5.0 since 19.1 with no issues
ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3
AMD FX-4350 (4.2gHz)
Vulcan DDR3 1600MHz 8Gb
ASUS GTX 660 - 2Gb / Driver Nvidia 390.116
Linux Mint 19.2 MATE amd64 / Kernel 5.0.0-23-generic x86_64
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Re: Kernel 5.0 is it dangerous to upgrade?

Post by phd21 » Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:11 pm

Hi smgordon1259, and everyone else,

I have been using Linux Kernel 5.1.6 LL without any issues in both Linux Mint Cinnamon 19.1 and KDE Neon User Edition both based on Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic, BUT I did have issues with Linux Kernels 5.2.4 and 5.2.6 with weird video stuff like missing text characters on desktop icons and widgets (applets and desklets) and themes not working right, etc... on my ancient underpowered computer. Another member told me that he's using 5.2.1 and has not had any issues. I wonder if my updated video mesa drivers may have been part of my problems with the newer Kernels or that I am using Low-Latency (LL) Kernels.

Fortunately, the Linux developers smartly planned ahead for possible Kernal update problems and users can just reboot and select a previous kernel from the boot menu advanced options and be back to normal; recommend removing the newer Kernels that did not work for them.
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Re: Kernel 5.0 is it dangerous to upgrade?

Post by gm10 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:24 am

phd21 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:11 pm
I have been using Linux Kernel 5.1.6 LL without any issues in both Linux Mint Cinnamon 19.1 and KDE Neon User Edition both based on Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic, BUT I did have issues with Linux Kernels 5.2.4 and 5.2.6 with weird video stuff like missing text characters on desktop icons and widgets (applets and desklets) and themes not working right, etc... on my ancient underpowered computer. Another member told me that he's using 5.2.1 and has not had any issues. I wonder if my updated video mesa drivers may have been part of my problems with the newer Kernels or that I am using Low-Latency (LL) Kernels.
I'm currently running 5.2.7-050207-generic with Mesa 19.1.4 and no issues to report. I am not using proprietary graphics drivers - those can sometimes be problematic.

The sweet-spot for this device was 4.19 (ext4 issues aside), previous series were giving me (minor) issues. But 4.19 wasn't a longterm series so gotta keep going up. ;)
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