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[solved] Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by veronica » Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:54 pm

why not give wine preinstall?
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Re: wine

Post by Flemur » Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:10 pm

What does "give wine preinstall" mean?
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Re: wine

Post by karlchen » Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:49 pm

Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?
I assume this would be the unshortened question.
Why this has been asked in the "Promotion" sub-forum, is a different question.
Guess, this thread will move to to "Chat about Linux Mint".
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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by ajgreeny » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:09 pm

To get back to your question about why Wine is not a default application installed in Mint, (I think that's what you're asking), I suspect it's because the large majority of users do not use Wine and do not want it;

The best way to use a Linux distro is to forget about Windows applications (unless they are available for both platforms) and use the Linux Mint alternative applications instead. This may sound rather harsh, but why try to keep going back to the old ways that you used in Windows when you have the full power and so many applications that are available for Mint.

If there are some essential applications you use in windows which can not be replaced with an alternative in Linux it will probably be far more effective to either dual boot or use a VM Windows installation in, for example, VirtualBox.

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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by Pjotr » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:12 pm

Wine is a gaping security hole.
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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by MrGrimm » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:19 pm

Pjotr wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:12 pm
Wine is a gaping security hole.
only if you as a end user allows it to be. i have wine, wintricks, and playonlinux and i know my system is secure. as stated above most peeps could careless about wine. the only reason i have it is for one app solsuite. i have yet to find a better solitaire game.

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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by Pjotr » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:21 pm

MrGrimm wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:19 pm
Pjotr wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:12 pm
Wine is a gaping security hole.
only if you as a end user allows it to be. i have wine, wintricks, and playonlinux and i know my system is secure.
Wrong. This is what the Wine developers warn you about:
https://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#Is_Wine_mal ... patible.3F
(items 7.4 and 7.5)
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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by MrGrimm » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:22 pm

again no worries as long as you take proper precautions.

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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by JerryF » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:25 pm

MrGrimm wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:19 pm
...as stated above most peeps could careless about wine. the only reason i have it is for one app solsuite. i have yet to find a better solitaire game.
What you really mean is couldn't care less. :wink:
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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by Pjotr » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:27 pm

JerryF wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:25 pm
MrGrimm wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:19 pm
...as stated above most peeps could careless about wine.
What you really mean is couldn't care less. :wink:
How careless. :lol:
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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by MrGrimm » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:31 pm

JerryF wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:25 pm
MrGrimm wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:19 pm
...as stated above most peeps could careless about wine. the only reason i have it is for one app solsuite. i have yet to find a better solitaire game.
What you really mean is couldn't care less. :wink:

actually either way is correct other than the missing space.

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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by Pjotr » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:39 pm

MrGrimm wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:31 pm
actually either way is correct other than the missing space.
Actually. Sentences should begin with a capital letter.

And it's not space that your postings generally lack. It's sensible content.
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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by Flemur » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:49 pm

veronica wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:54 pm
Amended the title so that the topic is really clear.
That made my question sound dumb. Maybe it was.

And "couldn't care less" is not the same as "could care less", which is wrong, since they mean opposite things.
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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by Portreve » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:01 am

Flemur wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:49 pm
veronica wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:54 pm
Amended the title so that the topic is really clear.
That made my question sound dumb. Maybe it was.

And "couldn't care less" is not the same as "could care less", which is wrong, since they mean opposite things.
I'll second that.

"I could care less about having a million dollars" actually suggests that I care a certain amount about having a million dollars, and there are lesser amounts of care possible which I could — yet don't — have relative to that scenario.

"I could not care less about having a million dollars" means that, at least on one's own personal scale of levels of care, one is at the absolute bottom, and no lesser amount is possible.

In actual day-to-day use, are they used interchangeably? Sadly, yes they are.

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veronica wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:54 pm
why not give wine preinstall?
It is not the priority of the overall GNU+Linux community to support commercial, non-libre licensed operating systems. Linux Mint is no exception to this. Wine (and all the related projects such as Play-On-Linux) are available for you to install should you choose to do so, but don't go foisting the Windows environment upon the rest of us, thank you very much.
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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by smgordon1259 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:55 am

MrGrimm wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:19 pm
Pjotr wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:12 pm
Wine is a gaping security hole.
only if you as a end user allows it to be. i have wine, wintricks, and playonlinux and i know my system is secure. as stated above most peeps could careless about wine. the only reason i have it is for one app solsuite. i have yet to find a better solitaire game.
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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by Sir Charles » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:00 pm

If you need a free and open source operating system which closely "emulates" Windows on which you could run Windows program, you might be interested of ReactOS:
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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by gm10 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:02 pm

Also the Steam client includes Wine (Proton), no reason to add an additional Wine installation to your system if you've got Steam.
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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by veronica » Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:25 pm

Ok I think this topic is clear now

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Re: [solved] Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by bob466 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:58 pm

I suppose for the same reason Virtualbox doesn't come Pre-Installed...not everyone wants it. Image :D :D
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Re: Why does Linux Mint not come with Wine pre-installed?

Post by MrGrimm » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:31 am

Flemur wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:49 pm
veronica wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:54 pm
Amended the title so that the topic is really clear.
That made my question sound dumb. Maybe it was.

And "couldn't care less" is not the same as "could care less", which is wrong, since they mean opposite things.
no they don't mean the opposite, try again.

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