LM 19.3 Trina, really? (not anymore, it's Tricia now)

gm10 · Post by **gm10** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:35 am

LM 19.2 Tina
LM 19.3 Trina

Clem running out of ideas? That will totally not be confusing...

update: Clem has renamed it, it will now be:

LM 19.3 Tricia

Pjotr · Post by **Pjotr** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:44 am

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.... At least Mint doesn't use the silly animal names that Ubuntu does.

Give the guy a break.... He's doing a good job from which many people, including I, benefit every day.

gm10 · Post by **gm10** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:54 am

Pjotr wrote: ⤴Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:44 amGive the guy a break....

I'm not allowed to poke even this little bit of fun?

cliffcoggin · Post by **cliffcoggin** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:33 pm

I don't understand why names are thought to be required. "Mint 19.3" is already a unique identifier so adding a name is superfluous.

gm10 · Post by **gm10** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:45 pm

cliffcoggin wrote: ⤴Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:33 pm I don't understand why names are thought to be required. "Mint 19.3" is already a unique identifier so adding a name is superfluous.

You need some sort of release code name for Debian packaging/repositories.

Post by **karlchen** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:34 pm

gm10 wrote: ⤴Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:35 amLM 19.3 Trina

What is the source for this nickname?
The September blog does not mention it. Unless the Firefox 69.0.2 search function is broken.
So for the moment I consider LM 19.3 Trina to be a bad joke.

"tina" at least would make me smile, reminding me of this TV commercial: Tina, wat kosten die Kondome?

(Tina, how much are the condoms?)
"trina", however, would make me grind my teeth at best.

gm10 · Post by **gm10** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:44 pm

karlchen wrote: ⤴Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:34 pm
gm10 wrote: ⤴Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:35 amLM 19.3 Trina
What is the source for this nickname?

http://packages.linuxmint.com/
http://packages.linuxmint.com/list.php?release=Trina

absque fenestris · Post by **absque fenestris** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:48 pm

karlchen wrote: ⤴Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:34 pm What is the source for this nickname?
/quote]

Katharina / Katrin

Trina / Trine is often used as nickname for Katharina in Switzerland

Pjotr · Post by **Pjotr** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:04 pm

Also in Dutch, it's an abbreviation of Catharina/Katrien. It's only used in a slighting way: "boerentrien", i.e. "farmer's trien", i.e. an uncivilized girl.

No offense intended towards the farmers (Dutch or otherwise).... It's simply the meaning of the word.

Post by **karlchen** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:11 pm

The source which gm10 has given is what I had in mind when asking.
As a native German speaker I am aware that "Trina" is a short form of "Katharina". Does not mean that I like it.
Tracy - Trisha - Trixi e.g. are more compatible with my ears than Trina is. The more so, because visually it is too similar to tina.
Too late for a change I guess.

CaptainKirksChair · Post by **CaptainKirksChair** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:28 pm

How about Tabitha (Tabatha) or Teresa? I know that Tessa is somewhat of a nickname for Teresa but Tess is a more proper diminutive for Teresa. There is also Twyla.

I'm just waiting to see what names will be used for Mint versions 23 and 25.

Post by **Pierre** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:50 pm

There is also Twyla, or Tanya.
& which wouldn't follow Clem's Naming System.

smurphos · Post by **smurphos** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:00 pm

Pierre wrote: ⤴Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:50 pm There is also Twyla, or Tanya.

Mint's codenames are have been alphabetical within series to date since 18, so assuming that is now convention we need something after Tin...

Tilly, Tricia, Tracy, Trixi, Tulisa.......

Shall we send Clem a link to https://www.babycentre.co.uk/baby-names-finder

all41 · Post by **all41** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:07 pm

Perhaps there is a certain sentiment involved in the naming here.
Perhaps an old girlfriend, or perhaps the wife of a certain dev?
If it were my wife then the name would be 'plaintiff'

HaveaMint · Post by **HaveaMint** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:56 am

As long as they don't call me late for supper I'm OK with it.

catweazel · Post by **catweazel** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:59 am

HaveaMint wrote: ⤴Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:56 am As long as they don't call me late for supper I'm OK with it.

I'm not. It's going to cause mass confusion for newcomers. Even blind Freddy could see that.

smurphos · Post by **smurphos** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:13 am

I'm looking forward to Mint 20.2 Ulrika-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb1JrDA8PzU

Post by **karlchen** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:21 am

Seriously, I guess we should have handed in our more or less constructive suggestions on which nickname Mint 19.3 could have some months earlier, right after "tina" had been released. You snooze, you lose. We have missed the timeslot.

So we should start compiling lists of female names starting with "U" now.

Pjotr · Post by **Pjotr** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:35 am

karlchen wrote: ⤴Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:21 am We have missed the timeslot.

Perhaps, but that doesn't mean the devs mightn't change their minds.... After all, there's no technical reason to stick to it yet.

Anyway: I don't really care. It's not a big problem; not even a small problem. It's so insignificant that it probably can't be called a problem at all.

Post by **karlchen** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:50 am

The nickname has public visibility. Means it will appear in the articles about Linux Mint 19.3, inside the text bodies as well as in the titles.
So a well chosen nickname has got some marketing aspect, even though it may just be a small factor.
After all the content will be more important than the label which you attach to it.
Of course, I am aware that it will be impossible to find a nickname, which will please everybody.

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