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Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?

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I like the new release just fine. Just two questions remain:
- Why am I now prompted to set a root password? It's never been recommended before that I do that.
- 'Drawing' seems like a useful little application, but I can't figure out how to use it to crop. I even checked the Help and it doesn't make sense to me. How?
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Moem wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:32 am
- Why am I now prompted to set a root password? It's never been recommended before that I do that.
Surprised to see you ask. I hear it is because some people think that locking their front door helps on principle, even if the window next to it stands wide open. 8)
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Check the time stamps... I can be pretty fast if something catches my interest. ;-)
Anyway, the question stands. I was never prompted before, and now I'm being prompted. Whether or not we agree on this being a good idea, what I'm wondering about is why the change in policy happened.

Also: I did in fact set a root password, and I'm still being prompted.
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Moem wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:45 am
Anyway, the question stands. I was never prompted before, and now I'm being prompted.
The "never" bit is a little debatable. Up to and including certainly Mint 17 (and I believe Mint 18) Mint automatically set a root password equal to your "first user" password. It's only fairly recently it stopped doing so; folowed Ubuntu in that respect. I.e., as to why you were never prompted before: for a large percentage of "ever" it was (even) less useful than now, a root password being set by default.

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Upgraded from 19.2 yesterday. So far, so good. I did have some issues prior to the upgrade and getting the upgrade to even show up in Update Manager though.

With 19.2 I was on 4.15.0-72 kernel and would get a kernel panic every time I booted up. So I would have to go into advanced settings and choose an older kernel version (4.15.0-58 always worked fine), but would have to do a hard reboot anytime the laptop (HP Pavilion) went to sleep. I also noticed that my boot folder was very low on space as it was jammed full of old versions of kernel. So I removed most of the older versions and freed up a lot of space. Then I went back into Update Manager, did a refresh and installed updates. I kept getting errors which basically amounted to Brave web browser and Metasploit repositories not being located. No biggie. I again tried to upgrade to 19.3, but it was not showing up as available. Updated my kernel to 5.0.0-37, rebooted, and then Update Manager wouldn't launch. Not exactly sure why that was. So I uninstalled Update Manager and reinstalled it. Launched it, and there was the upgrade to 19.3 just waiting patiently for me to install it! Install went smoothly and I have had no issues yet.
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for me, "Drawing is useless"

it will not let you paste an image into it.

GIMP is far easier to use.
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AZgl1500 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:32 pm
for me, "Drawing is useless"

it will not let you paste an image into it.
I can't reproduce that. It will let me. Maybe I asked more politely? :wink:
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Should "Drawing" have been installed by the upgrade? Because here it certainly wasn't...

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rene wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:43 pm
Should "Drawing" have been installed by the upgrade? Because here it certainly wasn't...
Yes, if you followed the instructions on the blog. It's point four.
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"What's a blog?"

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With all there is to like about the new release (19.3 xfce), I almost feel guilty about mentioning that usb 3 transfer speeds are down a good 30-40% as compared to Mint 18.3 xfce. Same laptop (latitude e6530, i7, 8gb ram), same devices (various HDDs, SSDs, even tested with the same files--this is very disappointing! I also dislike the "clown icons" in the notification area. On the plus side, the above mentioned laptop boots 19.3 in less than 10 seconds! (20 seconds to boot 18.3 on the same laptop). Finally figured out how to get the icon desired for custom launchers and badly behaved standard launchers (like that for grsync which shows as generic in the panel, unless you jump thru a couple of hoops. All in all this is a very smooth release and my thanks to the developers. Some of the minor glitches are probably xfce 4.14 related, as I've noticed the same things on mx19-xfce. I plan to switch over all the laptops in the house over the next couple of months. I will probably use 18.3 as my daily driver on my main computer for a while yet.

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I did fresh installs of both the beta and then the final release. It no longer continuously prompts to set the root password. Once you decline or accept, as far as I can tell, that's it.

I also checked out Drawing, but it's too early on in its development for it to be ready for prime time, so I just carried on with installing GIMP and that's an end to it. When I used to have a CafePress account, I did this all the time, but I will often build a layout in Scribus, convert the type to outlines, then export a copy of the layout as an SVG and use GIMP to do the final rendering at the appropriate scale and resolution. That way, I can decide if and where there is a background in the image. I've also found GIMP does a better rasterizing job than Scribus.
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bjmh46 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:56 pm
With all there is to like about the new release (19.3 xfce), I almost feel guilty about mentioning that usb 3 transfer speeds are down a good 30-40% as compared to Mint 18.3 xfce. Same laptop (latitude e6530, i7, 8gb ram), same devices (various HDDs, SSDs, even tested with the same files--this is very disappointing! I also dislike the "clown icons" in the notification area. On the plus side, the above mentioned laptop boots 19.3 in less than 10 seconds! (20 seconds to boot 18.3 on the same laptop). Finally figured out how to get the icon desired for custom launchers and badly behaved standard launchers (like that for grsync which shows as generic in the panel, unless you jump thru a couple of hoops. All in all this is a very smooth release and my thanks to the developers. Some of the minor glitches are probably xfce 4.14 related, as I've noticed the same things on mx19-xfce. I plan to switch over all the laptops in the house over the next couple of months. I will probably use 18.3 as my daily driver on my main computer for a while yet.

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Mint 19.3 Cinnamon the boot time is reduced from 3 minutes to 2 minuts 15 seconds.
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deepakdeshp wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:38 pm
Mint 19.3 Cinnamon the boot time is reduced from 3 minutes to 2 minuts 15 seconds.
Mine seems to be faster than that:

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$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 5.518s (firmware) + 5.200s (loader) + 9.251s (kernel) + 11.201s (userspace) = 31.171s
graphical.target reached after 11.186s in userspace

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: john-TUF-Gaming-FX705GM-FX705GM Kernel: 5.3.0-24-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.5 
           Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: TUF Gaming FX705GM_FX705GM v: 1.0 serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: FX705GM v: 1.0 serial: <root required> UEFI: American Megatrends v: FX705GM.301 
           date: 09/21/2018 
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Migrated from 19.2 to 19.3 XFCE 64 bit on my Acer AO532h-2588 netbook using the update manager.
Fully updated 19.2 then clicked the update to 19.3 link under the "edit" tab.
Also updated the kernel to v5 ...
A couple of bumps in the road like the installer greyed out the [proceed at your own risk] checkbox so I couldn't check it but proceeded with the installation anyway.
So far so good ... everything works including wifi.
I like the new XFCE desktop.
Very simple & utilitarian ... I hate gaudy/busy desktops.

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AZgl1500 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:39 pm
deepakdeshp wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:38 pm
Mint 19.3 Cinnamon the boot time is reduced from 3 minutes to 2 minuts 15 seconds.
Mine seems to be faster than that:

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$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 5.518s (firmware) + 5.200s (loader) + 9.251s (kernel) + 11.201s (userspace) = 31.171s
graphical.target reached after 11.186s in userspace

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: john-TUF-Gaming-FX705GM-FX705GM Kernel: 5.3.0-24-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.5 
           Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: TUF Gaming FX705GM_FX705GM v: 1.0 serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: FX705GM v: 1.0 serial: <root required> UEFI: American Megatrends v: FX705GM.301 
           date: 09/21/2018 
In my case there is around 30 % reduction in boot time.
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When I got this machine it came with windozzzzze 10. Between power and boot finish I could make a cup of coffee. With LM 19.3 the time is about 41 seconds.
That's a rough estimate, watching a clock with a second display. From power on to boot menu 20 seconds. Boot menu to log in 15 seconds. Log in to main screen 6 seconds. These times don't include entering choices in boot menu and entering log in password. I suppose I could shorten this time by shortening the boot splash screen and skipping the boot menu and log in screens. I'm not a speed freak, I'm very happy! :D

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steve@steve-lap:~$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 4.404s (kernel) + 9.413s (userspace) = 13.817s
graphical.target reached after 9.406s in userspace

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System:
  Host: steve-lap Kernel: 5.3.0-24-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.5 
  Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 5567 v: N/A serial: <root required> 
  Mobo: Dell model: 05VRRG v: A00 serial: <root required> UEFI [Legacy]: Dell 
  v: 1.1.2 date: 04/10/2017 
I don't even have time during an after dinner session to pour a glass of wine. :lol: Gotta do it before booting up! :!:
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ajgringo619 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:49 pm
Mint 19.3 is still using XFCE v4.12.4; v4.14 is probably slated for Mint 20.
That's untrue I'm afraid.

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$ inxi -S
System:
  Host: hp8k Kernel: 5.0.0-37-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 
  Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia 

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Yup, Mint 19.3 Xfce features the brand-new Xfce 4.14. Which for me, makes it perhaps the most exciting of the three Tricia editions. :mrgreen:
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