Why not Secure-Mint?

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Why not Secure-Mint?

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The various BSDs have OpenBSD which is probably the most secure O/S in the family. I don't recall seeing anything similar in Linux. Could this be something based on the LMDE variants that might be commercially viable, which could bring in some needed $$$ for Mint? And then how would we harden Mint to make it more secure out of the box?
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BSD produces a whole OS, it is not like Linux multiverse. How do you define secure - memory protection, system hardening, network security, the defaults, privacy, anonymity? And ["Quote: how would we harden Mint"] what team can handle all of that? And how much all of that is relevant to the user oriented desktop OS? Also there are already so many different secure distributions, such as Qubes, Tails, Kodachi, etc.
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Failsafe OOTB security is a pipe dream, it'll never happen in Linux or any other OS. In fact one of the best bits of advice I ever heard is that the WORST thing you can so re security is to install some app, or avenb OS, thinking it'll make you hack proof.
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Re: Why not Secure-Mint?

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Hoser Rob wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:42 am
Failsafe OOTB security is a pipe dream, it'll never happen in Linux or any other OS. In fact one of the best bits of advice I ever heard is that the WORST thing you can so re security is to install some app, or avenb OS, thinking it'll make you hack proof.
Even if you have a machine that you don't connect to internet and keep it in a "secured" locked room. its still not secure cause the door can be kicked in lol.
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Hoser Rob wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:42 am
Failsafe OOTB security is a pipe dream, it'll never happen in Linux or any other OS. In fact one of the best bits of advice I ever heard is that the WORST thing you can so re security is to install some app, or avenb OS, thinking it'll make you hack proof.
Of course there can be a failsafe OOTB security system. DON'T LET HUMANS anywhere near it!
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DON'T LET HUMANS anywhere near it!
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t42 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:53 am
BSD produces a whole OS, it is not like Linux multiverse. How you define secure - memory protection, system hardening, network security, the defaults, privacy, anonymity? And ["Quote: how would we harden Mint"] what team can handle all of that? And how much all of that is relevant to the user oriented desktop OS? Also there are already so many different secure distributions, such as Qubes, Tails, Kodachi, etc.
So essentially unlike the BSD offering, you cannot secure Linux? I am somewhat confused.
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In what ways do you consider Mint to be insecure? In other words, what is the problem you're trying to solve?
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Mint is quite safe for ordinary users.If your security needs are very high.You can use Linux distribution specifically focused on safety
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security- ... ing_system
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151tom wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:58 am
I go to quite a few ahem, cough, questionable websites. :wink: :lol:
Me to. I have never had any problems with viruses in Linux :D
This is one of the reasons why I like Linux.
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In my opinion, this thread is one of two different things:

1. An attempt at trolling with a goal of causing cached Google search results making it appear that either Linux Mint or GNU+Linux in general is insecure, and therefore scary; or

2. The product of someone with so little technologically clue (and/or possibly the desire for one) about what the term security is as applied to computer technology that continuing this discussion is basically a waste of time.
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Portreve wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:32 pm
In my opinion, this thread is one of two different things:

1. An attempt at trolling with a goal of causing cached Google search results making it appear that either Linux Mint or GNU+Linux in general is insecure, and therefore scary;
Have you noticed that the poster is a regular here and has been here for years? I'm very sure they're not trolling.
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Re: Why not Secure-Mint?

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Stay off the **** sites and you'll be fine :mrgreen:
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Pepi wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:54 pm
Stay off the **** sites and you'll be fine :mrgreen:
For Linux users, such things do not pose a real danger. ( Apart from the danger of acquiring a new addiction :D )
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Moem wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:51 pm
Portreve wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:32 pm
In my opinion, this thread is one of two different things:

1. An attempt at trolling with a goal of causing cached Google search results making it appear that either Linux Mint or GNU+Linux in general is insecure, and therefore scary;
Have you noticed that the poster is a regular here and has been here for years? I'm very sure they're not trolling.
:arrow: Moem is absolutely correct. I think somebody owns MurphCID an apology for subjectively berating the original poster. :idea:
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151tom wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:26 pm
Pepi wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:54 pm
Stay off the **** sites and you'll be fine :mrgreen:
"dark web"
A slightly different word came to my mind "p..." :D I think Pepi meant it this.
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