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Re: What Don't You Like about Linux Mint?

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MurphCID wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:13 am My problems with Mint:

1) It is too easy to install. I mean Linux needs to be hard, and take hours and hours to get anything resembling a proper desktop and usable hardware! You need to be a software engineer or guru to use Linux, only the elite need apply.
Exactly, I was told that Mint was a version of Linux which was exactly like Windows, so easy to use and less problems ... so one of my main problems is that I spent much more time to switch to Linux, than the time needed to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 8 etc and then I am repeatedly angry aginst the person who claimed that ... and it is idem for the Mint re-installation, I was very afraid of this but I was told that it was easy to do, but really ... no, I made this in the beginning of january and i am still to fix the new problems it got

But Linux Mint surprised me in good on some things :
- its installer is able to support an installation near another version of Linux on the same disk, without issue
- we can then add the same home for the new installation, than the other, previous version (if it is Mint too)
and to add a new user with the same name than in the other Mint, when they share the same home, that runs perfectly well too
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Re: What Don't You Like about Linux Mint?

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MurphCID wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:13 am My problems with Mint:

1) It is too easy to install. I mean Linux needs to be hard, and take hours and hours to get anything resembling a proper desktop and usable hardware! You need to be a software engineer or guru to use Linux, only the elite need apply.
2) It is too easy to customize. Operating Systems need to only allow you to use "THE ONE TRUE WAY"! Just look at Mac O/S or Windows!
3) It updates too quickly. It should take hours and hours of agony and reboots to update!
4) It has too much added software. You should have to pay for every software package installed! An office suite, that should be at least $100 extra! Come on Now!
5) It is too easy to add new software packages. Come on, you need a store that is curated and only allows "official" releases (for a price).
6) There is no spyware. Really, software needs to phone home immediately and monetize you!
7) It just works. Come on now we need at least a minimum of one BSOD a week just to show us that we need to give software companies more money! After all software is not perfect! After all software should crash on a regular basis.

I know I have left things out, but these are my major complaints.....
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Re: What Don't You Like about Linux Mint?

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ajgreeny wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:21 am
MurphCID wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:13 am My problems with Mint:

1) It is too easy to install. I mean Linux needs to be hard, and take hours and hours to get anything resembling a proper desktop and usable hardware! You need to be a software engineer or guru to use Linux, only the elite need apply.
2) It is too easy to customize. Operating Systems need to only allow you to use "THE ONE TRUE WAY"! Just look at Mac O/S or Windows!
3) It updates too quickly. It should take hours and hours of agony and reboots to update!
4) It has too much added software. You should have to pay for every software package installed! An office suite, that should be at least $100 extra! Come on Now!
5) It is too easy to add new software packages. Come on, you need a store that is curated and only allows "official" releases (for a price).
6) There is no spyware. Really, software needs to phone home immediately and monetize you!
7) It just works. Come on now we need at least a minimum of one BSOD a week just to show us that we need to give software companies more money! After all software is not perfect! After all software should crash on a regular basis.

I know I have left things out, but these are my major complaints.....
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Absolutely! :) I tend to judge all other distributions by Mint.
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Re: What Don't You Like about Linux Mint?

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NOTHING!! It just keeps working. Every time hubby yells "Help!!" I am reminded of just what a simply beautiful OS LM is. That is why I send them a monthly donation; I want them to ALWAYS be able to be there.
BTW:
What do computers and air conditioners have in common?

Both work well until you open Windows. :lol:
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JTemple wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:26 pm...What do computers and air conditioners have in common?

Both work well until yo open Windows. :lol:
That's funny because it's true!
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Re: What Don't You Like about Linux Mint?

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Mint just makes it too easy to install updates and software. I demand and expect what I got this morning with my MSI Gaming laptop, an hour of frustration, reboots, errors, and issues! Darn it! Software updates should NOT BE EASY, it should be hard so that we Plebians understand how hard our Masters have worked to provide us with THEIR software that they deign to let us use....!!!!
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Re: What Don't You Like about Linux Mint?

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Just read through this post. A lot of it was about Mint colors. I thought that it was trivial and nitpicking. That wasn't useful information about what is what don't like about LM Mint. Just a whole lot dislikes. Not very constructive.

Personally I don't care about what the color of a logo or the website home page is. If you wish to choose a distro by the its color, go for it. LM Mint is my choice because it works!

There were comments about poor documentation. I agree completely. My first install was with accepting all the recommended choices. Just one partition for everything.

After using LM for a while and perusing LM forums, I learned that it was advantageous to have separate root, file, home and data partitions.
There are no directions in LM manuals on how to change your partition scheme once you did a basic install. I tried it and it was a disaster.
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=295318

The current way to find the LM guide is rather difficult. It is buried in LM Home>Download>Documentation>Installation Guide,and choose a PDF.
https://linuxmint-installation-guide.re ... stall.html
It should be the most prominent button on the Home Page. Also link to a page that lists minimum hardware requirements and the install guide. Also a link to a how to page to burn an ISO to a USB or CD/DVD.
What I'd like like to see in the LM manual is when you are doing a fresh install is when you check for something else button a guide for setting up your desired partition scheme. It took me a while to figure how to do it. It was kind of scary, gparted isn't for the faint of heart.
The best tutorial I found for this is
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=287353
It maybe a bit outdated. The original poster, pbear, is missing.

PS
I just googled "mint" on Google.
Looking for info on mint, the herb. The fifth option for "mint" was

Linux Mint: Main Page
https://linuxmint.com
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Re: What Don't You Like about Linux Mint?

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I wish there was some visual indicator to let you know Mint is updating Flatpaks. I live in a pretty rural area and only have access to DSL (StarLink should be available here soon-ish) and notice that my connection will get incredibly slow sometimes only to discover it was because Mint was chewing through Flatpak updates in the background. It's not too bad since the only Flatpaks I usually install are Spotify and Discord but it was enough to give me concern.

I wish I could change the background color on the pop-up text when you hover over stuff. The yellow background is nice for the old-school Windows nostalgia but it feels out of place a lot of the times.

Speaking of colors, I wonder if it would be possible to have a field where you could put in hex code for you system colors in addition to the defaults already there. That should make everyone happy. :)

Aside from that, I'd like to see a KDE version make a return.
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Re: What Don't You Like about Linux Mint?

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Well, so far my only dislike about Linux Mint is its default theme. The contrast between the green and white elements is still too low, so I change the colors to Mint-Y-Blue (sometimes Dark-Blue), with the window manager theme always set to Mint-Y-Dark.

Regarding the older kernel and software, I find these more of a plus for me, since my old PC that until about one year ago ran Windows 7 won't boot with any kernel version above 4.15, so Linux Mint 19.2 is end game for me and so far runs perfectly on my machine.
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Re: What Don't You Like about Linux Mint?

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I've been using Mint for over ten years, and have found the experience generally excellent - the OS has, after all, taken me through the process of doing a PhD, so I'm grateful for all the work that the developers put in to making everything just work. Recently, however, as I've been working from home, and having to connect with fellow researchers and activists on platforms such as Skype, Zoom and Teams the niggling problems Mint is having with microphones are forcing me to contemplate using Windows again.

From the postings on the Sound, Multimedia and Codecs pages, it seems the problem is quite widespread, and perhaps it's something that needs some sustained development effort to resolve. From my point of view, I'd be interested to know if anyone is actually using Mint successfully with Skype, Zoom, or Teams?
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I was using Zoom on LM 19.3 Cinnamon but don't need it anymore and have now doen a fresh install onto Debian 11 Cinnamon
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Re: What Don't You Like about Linux Mint?

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johnerskine wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 11:27 am From my point of view, I'd be interested to know if anyone is actually using Mint successfully with Skype, Zoom, or Teams?
Zoom works fine for me. I have downloaded the appimage.
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johnerskine wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 11:27 am and having to connect with fellow researchers and activists on platforms such as Skype, Zoom and Teams the niggling problems Mint is having with microphones are forcing me to contemplate using Windows again.
I'd be interested to know if anyone is actually using Mint successfully with Skype, Zoom, or Teams?
Never used Teams. Skype worked OK until Microsoft took it over and broke it. How ever they eventually sorted things out and it worked OK. Never had a problem with ZOOM and used it a lot last year.

With a big group we used the TV as a monitor and had a boom mounted microphone leaning over the top of it.
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Re: What Don't You Like about Linux Mint?

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-- Sorry to sound like a monkey-see-monkey-do but I'm agreeing with Mick-cork on this one. All three points make plenty of sense.. If I had to only pick one of those three, I'd like to see Nemo get a good performance boost. PCMan file manager is easily noticeably faster. *shrugs*

That's about it. Honestly, I've loved everything else so far about the LM experience since July 2020 when I transferred from Windows 100%
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Re: What Don't You Like about Linux Mint?

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Poor support for Right to Left languages.
It's a generic problem on non-Windows operating systems, but Mint's support for RTL is even worse.

Touchpad not clickable out of the box.

Heavily configured GRUB screen makes customization harder.
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