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Re: Mint Newcomers!--what fries you the most?

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Soon to be 1 year of running Mint on my home laptop. My trusty ol' lenovo with win10 needed new fans, new keyboard etc so I decided to challenge myself to go linux only for home use, with a retired/salvaged lenovo yoga from work.

I guess what irked me most when making the transition was not Mint itself, but the 30 years of Windows experience hardcoded into my brain stem and fingers.

I think for making this switch, Mint Cinnamon would most likely be the distro/DE giving me the least grief. But it still took about 3-4 weeks to readjust.
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ivar wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:16 am so I decided to challenge myself to go linux only for home use, with a retired/salvaged lenovo yoga from work.
Nothing wrong with lenovo, in fact the opposite for the thinkpads.

I still have win7 in a VM, mainly for office and mainly for work. Doesn't get used much.
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AZgl1800 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:33 pm I just completed a new install of MX21 under VB today.
I've used MX-Linux many years it runs great on most computers and smokes most Linux distros OOTB. :D
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majpooper wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:50 pm
TuxSymphony wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:52 am Being a new forum member finding my way about and an avid Mate fan,
I've read that LMDE (sans ubuntu) can be conjoured to work as a Mate DE.
I'd really like to see that as an option in LMDE.
In a manner of speaking MATE DE is an option in LMDE if you consider the synaptic package manager GUI.
Install MATE - Mark for complete Removal cinnamon
However IMHO the best way to convert LMDE from Cinnamon to MATE is from the terminal using apt
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sudo apt update

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sudo apt purge cinnamon -y

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sudo apt autoremove -y 

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sudo apt install mate -y

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sudo apt update

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sudo systemctl reboot
That worked nicely, thanks!
additions were mint-desktop and caja-admin, orphaned files removed using deborphan and added a couple more commands to purge cinnamon once mate was the default DE.

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sudo apt autoremove --purge cinnamon nemo cinnamon-screensaver cinnamon-control-center -y

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sudo apt install software-properties-common apt-transport-https curl -y
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As a really, really new newbie to Linux Mint Cinnamon what gets me the most (so far) must include:

Trying out another distro and finding that:
1 it runs a more up to date stable of LibreOffice
2 it runs a clipboard/clipbook manager out of the box

It isn't a big deal I know but it challenges my sense of dependencies on Software Management operational methods in LMC. Then I feel duty bound to trawl websites to see what the most recent versions are and compare them with ... uh ho

3 it has a Software Manager that does not tell you the version details of the software you might want to install

Like I say these are not game stoppers and seem more operational interfacing and use experience leaning sort of things
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151tom wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:20 pm I've used MX-Linux many years it runs great on most computers and smokes most Linux distros OOTB. :D
I gave MX21 Xfce and Zorin 16 Core a quick spin and was very impressed with both

They seem exciting distros but I chose to stick with LMC because it seems less fussy and less "in yer face".

I ended up recalling what is more important in a Powerpoint Presentation: the glitz or the content (content always won for me)

That and the resizing handles, click n drag methods, snapping to what I did not want it to snap to ... seemed common in MX21 and Z16C

All the same I can imagine them being very attractive options to users due to acceptable and beautiful eye candy
The alt & spacebar then F7 n x r and so forth are helpful though
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Oraticus wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:55 pm I gave MX21 Xfce and Zorin 16 Core a quick spin and was very impressed with both

They seem exciting distros but I chose to stick with LMC because it seems less fussy and less "in yer face".
I like MX-Linux it works great and runs fast on my old Frankenstein computers.

I don't have a newfangled high powered computer my computer has a duel core processor / 4.0GB memory / integrated graphics adapter and a 40GB mechanical hard drive.

If Linux Mint Cinnamon is what works best for you than it's the best OS you can have imo.
Oraticus wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:55 pm I ended up recalling what is more important in a Powerpoint Presentation: the glitz or the content (content always won for me)

That and the resizing handles, click n drag methods, snapping to what I did not want it to snap to ... seemed common in MX21 and Z16C

All the same I can imagine them being very attractive options to users due to acceptable and beautiful eye candy
The alt & spacebar then F7 n x r and so forth are helpful though
I don't know anything about Powerpoint Presentation although I use Libreoffice writer I don't do a lot of office type stuff.

Linux is Linux most Linux distros I use pretty much all work the same OOTB just different desktop environment.
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151tom wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:29 am If Linux Mint Cinnamon is what works best for you than it's the best OS you can have imo.

Hmmm - nicely obfuscated bit of nesting there?
Hmmm - nicely obfuscated bit of nesting there?

If I happen across an old laptop somewhere I think I'll give Zorin and MX21 a spin.

Whichever wins may live and exist at least for a while and run with the electrons in that machine.

It is good being able to try stuff out like that :idea:
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Oraticus wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:55 pm
151tom wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:29 am If Linux Mint Cinnamon is what works best for you than it's the best OS you can have imo.

Hmmm - nicely obfuscated bit of nesting there?
Hmmm - nicely obfuscated bit of nesting there?

If I happen across an old laptop somewhere I think I'll give Zorin and MX21 a spin.

Whichever wins may live and exist at least for a while and run with the electrons in that machine.

It is good being able to try stuff out like that :idea:
If you add a 120gb ssd (<20 usd) you can comfortably run 4 Linux os from this drive alone.
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Oraticus wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:55 pm
151tom wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:29 am If Linux Mint Cinnamon is what works best for you than it's the best OS you can have imo.

Hmmm - nicely obfuscated bit of nesting there?
Hmmm - nicely obfuscated bit of nesting there?

If I happen across an old laptop somewhere I think I'll give Zorin and MX21 a spin.

Whichever wins may live and exist at least for a while and run with the electrons in that machine.

It is good being able to try stuff out like that :idea:
Why not use Ventoy and store those ISOs on the Flash Drive / Stick ( whatever you want to call it )

Boot up Ventoy and select your flavor of choice and play with it for a while.

Much faster and easier than using VirtualBox, nothing to do, except copy the ISO to the USB Stick.

Now you don't need a spare PC/laptop to play with
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I have said before--Ventoy is on my try list--it's just that MultiSystem works so well for me--trusted and familiar.
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all41 wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:22 pm I have said before--Ventoy is on my try list--it's just that MultiSystem works so well for me--trusted and familiar.
I tried MultiSystem back in my first year of 'larnin' Linux, and failed grossly, never went back.
that has been a few years now...

Ventoy to me, seems so "Straight Forward" and simple to add a new ISO
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AZgl1800 wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:02 pm
all41 wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:22 pm I have said before--Ventoy is on my try list--it's just that MultiSystem works so well for me--trusted and familiar.
I tried MultiSystem back in my first year of 'larnin' Linux, and failed grossly, never went back.
that has been a few years now...

Ventoy to me, seems so "Straight Forward" and simple to add a new ISO
I may love it, who knows
but for now multisystem is the devil I know.
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all41 wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:14 pm If you add a 120gb ssd (<20 usd) you can comfortably run 4 Linux os from this drive alone.
Ahhh - this is good!

Now if I knew this before all of those lockdown thingies I'd have made better use of the time.

Dedicated boot drive
Personal storage drive - different platters emm -- SSD buckets - for continuity of work in progress files and or separate partition/SDD for longer term storage - shorter term archive .... hmmm sounds interesting to me.
I'd guess that a separate SDD is better for swap if working on video or large files?
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Oraticus wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:30 pm
all41 wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:14 pm If you add a 120gb ssd (<20 usd) you can comfortably run 4 Linux os from this drive alone.
Ahhh - this is good!

Now if I knew this before all of those lockdown thingies I'd have made better use of the time.

Dedicated boot drive
Personal storage drive - different platters emm -- SSD buckets - for continuity of work in progress files and or separate partition/SDD for longer term storage - shorter term archive .... hmmm sounds interesting to me.
I'd guess that a separate SDD is better for swap if working on video or large files?
All my os share the same directories--but these are not in the root ~/home
All share a common Download directory on a separate partition.
Other directories are also shared such as /var/cache/apt/archives
Download updates only once and they are recognised for all
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all41 wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:46 pm
All my os share the same directories--but these are not in the root ~/home
All share a common Download directory on a separate partition.
Other directories are also shared such as /var/cache/apt/archives
Download updates only once and they are recognised for all
I hope you don't mind me asking but how would I go about doing something like that?
Partitioning the disks, how to install - all the mundane stuff a newbie stumbles into ..
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Take today.
I chose to rename some image files - it helps me match up easy-view thumbnails with Originals and both seem to have independent uses as well.

So I progressed by doing it manually and cursed that IrfanView is not available in linux.
After manually renaming about 200 files in a folder with about 300 images I accidentally stumbled across Bulky File Renamer as part of Nemo Files.

I did not know it as Bulk Renamer until quiet moments after I had renamed thousands (yes - true, had to make a start sometime and television was dull) of image files.

One slap on the forehead later...

So I suppose the theme today is: realising there really are easy ways to do what needs to done :oops:
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Oraticus wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:51 pm Take today.
I chose to rename some image files - it helps me match up easy-view thumbnails with Originals and both seem to have independent uses as well.

So I progressed by doing it manually and cursed that IrfanView is not available in linux.
After manually renaming about 200 files in a folder with about 300 images I accidentally stumbled across Bulky File Renamer as part of Nemo Files.

I did not know it as Bulk Renamer until quiet moments after I had renamed thousands (yes - true, had to make a start sometime and television was dull) of image files.

One slap on the forehead later...

So I suppose the theme today is: realising there really are easy ways to do what needs to done :oops:
You're doing fiine--no one understood this from the get go--
You hang in there--it takes a while for things to sink in
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ivar wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:16 am Soon to be 1 year of running Mint on my home laptop. My trusty ol' lenovo with win10 needed new fans, new keyboard etc so I decided to challenge myself to go linux only for home use, with a retired/salvaged lenovo yoga from work.

I guess what irked me most when making the transition was not Mint itself, but the 30 years of Windows experience hardcoded into my brain stem and fingers.

I think for making this switch, Mint Cinnamon would most likely be the distro/DE giving me the least grief. But it still took about 3-4 weeks to readjust.
Excellent--this reply is helpful.
I know--hard to erase 30 years--especially in 3 to 4 weeks. You are genius
What was your most difficult adjustment?
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Oraticus wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:51 pm Take today.
I chose to rename some image files - it helps me match up easy-view thumbnails with Originals and both seem to have independent uses as well.

So I progressed by doing it manually and cursed that IrfanView is not available in linux.
After manually renaming about 200 files in a folder with about 300 images I accidentally stumbled across Bulky File Renamer as part of Nemo Files.

I did not know it as Bulk Renamer until quiet moments after I had renamed thousands (yes - true, had to make a start sometime and television was dull) of image files.

One slap on the forehead later...

So I suppose the theme today is: realising there really are easy ways to do what needs to done :oops:
IrfanView--I think we all used that in the past
Get cozy with the default pix--there is more power in the options that initially appear--you will find them.
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