widget wrote:I should add that Plymouth cannot be let run on this box.
Before and/or after installation? Live it uses uvesafb (just check /etc/default/grub settings) and after installation it uses drm (the recommended driver).
widget wrote:In Debian it is a nice safe stand alone package that nothing depends on.
True, you can run DPM first and select the "no plymouth theme" option (last in list).
This will remove any configuration.
After that you can purge plymouth:
Sorry for the rant.
I am familiar with the menu entries. And how to modify them. Learned all that crap when Ubuntu decided to go with Plymouth for 10.04-testing and the release.
All I need to do on any thing using plymouth is hit exit when it comes up. That kills the splash which is the only thing that kills me.
I use custom entries for all my installs so it is very simple to leave splash out of the process. It is easy to do if you use the normal generated menu entries by simply editing the /etc/default/grub file to not use a splash. Either is actually easier than messing with the plymouth config.
I am quite familiar with plymouth themes, have even made a couple. Can't use it.
Ubuntu has lost members over it. Fedora lost members because of it before Ubuntu ever messed with it. The Ubuntu devs did more to make that pig run in 6 months than the Fedora devs did in 3 years. It now runs well on most hardware.
The problem is that it is also more patch than anything else. Everytime they patch it there is an improvement for a lot of hardware. It makes it harder to get it to run on other hardware.
I was very lucky in 10.04-testing. Never had a problem with it. Until 5 days before the release (after the RC was out) and there was an upgrade for plymouth. I still can't boot a 10.04 iso. The newer releases I can. I have even copied installs from another box to here and messed with it. Won't boot.
Sounds like a rock crusher instead of a HDD running. Ruined one drive doing that and gave up on 10.04. That makes 5 HDDs that I know of that it ruined.
Is very much improved now. Boots in less than 5 minutes everytime. Most under 3. If you don't mind the boot time and using Alt + SysRq + b to reboot it is not bad. If I leave the splash off, however, things boot in about a minute and they shut down faster than that.
These are well known problems and have been for a long time. I am sure another fad splash will come along soon, I hope so anyway, and then everyone will jump on that. Hopefully it will be as well written as some of the others that were used and not as poorly as plymouth.
I have the entire thing pretty much set up to my liking. A little tweaking will need done yet but not much. Haven't run into a problem yet.
Have quite a busy day tomorrow but hope to finish it off and drop a screen shot off here.
Nice to see Ristretto and I hadn't looked at screenshooter but was glad to see it there. I like it real well. If I don't use it I use scrot.
Have never used Exaile but my son does. He likes it more than I do but this version is the best I have used.
Rhythmbox and Gedit are the 2 things I like from Gnome. Without recommends they add 27 packages. I like Rhythmbox as a player. Personal thing. Gedit has tabs and when you are opening several instances of one file from different installs to compare that is important to me. If Mouspad had tabs I would never bother with Gedit again. Works great for simply working in one install like a normal person anyway.
Don't know if there is going to be another release of this or not but I do have a / partition for it. I certainly don't see any need of one so far.
If not I will have to get the address posted a couple other places. I think it may go over very well. It should. Very nice.
Dell XPS 420 Core2 Quad Q 6600, audigy5.1, Radeon HD 6450 - currently 4 320Gb HDD, Debian Squeeze for secure use, Debian testing for daily use, Debian Sid for fun.