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Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:02 pm
by lexon

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:10 pm
by Bolle1961
No Ubuntu...no Mint
yeah, right ......
Mint would probably be based on Debian.

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:13 pm
by BigEasy
No Debian... no Ubuntu.

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:20 pm
by Habitual
Yawn.

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:29 pm
by Fragezeichen
Where would we be without Ubuntu?
Where would Ubuntu be without Debian?
Where would Linux be without Torvalds?
Where would the kernel be without C?
Where would life on earth be without water or oxygen?
etc...

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:31 pm
by Moem
Happily using LMDE, probably.

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:03 pm
by Joss
Consider that Linux might not even enjoy high quality font rendering without Ubuntu. Even in recent releases of Fedora, fonts don't render nearly as well as they do in Ubuntu.
I agree. I also agree with the crux of the article. Maybe without Ubuntu there would have been something else (Mint or whatever), but we'll never know.
What we know is that Ubuntu did change the Linux landscape dramatically.

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:22 pm
by MartyMint
I'd (reluctantly) be using Fedora.

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:22 pm
by GreyGeek
Bolle1961 wrote:
No Ubuntu...no Mint
yeah, right ......
Mint would probably be based on Debian.
And sometime in the future it probably will be, if Shuttlesworth shutters Conical and withdraws his $$$ support.

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:54 am
by mzsade
I am a late starter when it comes to computers, first learned how to use a PC on Windows 2000 at 43, got my first PC at 45 with XP on it and switched to Ubuntu (Intrepid )that same year, and in another 6 months, to Linux Mint Gloria. Wouldn't even have tried Linux if i hadn't heard of and come across Ubuntu. So yes, although i don't think much of it as an OS and now use LMDE and Debian exclusively, i am inclined to agree with the author. i feel every Linux user owes a debt of gratitude to Ubuntu for popularizing Linux to the extent that even a yokel like me found it the most accessible first step when looking for an alternative; not to forget the community created around it, google any issue and you are most likely to find it discussed and/or solved on the Ubuntu forums first.

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:17 am
by sphyrth
The article forces readers to recognize Ubuntu's influence with Linux and the world. And I also find it important to know where Linux Mint came from.

However, Clem chose a distro that he considered could become better, and modified it that vision. Hence, Mint was born.

In theory:
Without Ubuntu, Clem would've chosen another distro to improve upon. And that distro would become the "Mint" of that universe.

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:26 am
by Fragezeichen
Well, you can't deny that Ubuntu has had its impact on Linux and has increased its popularity. However, it is also a fact that Canonical have always taken more from Linux and the FOSS community than they've given back. There certainly are a lot of other distributions and companies that have contributed way more to furthering Linux and open source as a whole, yet they're not even remotely mentioned as much as Ubuntu/Canonical. I'd imagine that's because they're more focused on actual development rather than aggressive marketing.

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:35 pm
by dXTC
Fragezeichen wrote:Where would we be without Ubuntu?
Where would Ubuntu be without Debian?
Where would Linux be without Torvalds?
Where would the kernel be without C?
Where would life on earth be without water or oxygen?
etc...
Along a similar vein...
...Where Would I Be Without IBM?

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:07 am
by frodopogo
That aggressive marketing may be worth SOMETHING.

I'm also a former Windows user (XP). One day I got together with a fellow musician to jam. While we were taking a break, he showed me the Ubuntu installation on his desktop computer. And I thought... if a musician who's not much of a computer geek is aware of and liking Ubuntu, maybe it's reaching some kind of maturity as far as user friendliness.... and maybe I ought to check it out.
And I did... but I couldn't handle the color scheme or the control panel across the top. So I never even downloaded it initially.
I remember doing a search for "best Linux version for Windows users", and Distrowatch came up. And Linux Mint was high in the rankings, at the time just behind Ubuntu. So I checked it out, and did a dual boot install with Linux Mint Elyssa and XP.

Somewhere I'd also heard of Knoppix on live CDs as a diagnostic tool, and a way of have a virus-proof way of accessing the internet. And I downloaded that, and used that. But I can't remember if that was before or after the encounter with the Ubuntu user. I think it was before. But it was way too cluttered (How many editors do you really NEED?) and confusing... obviously something a computer geek could be comfortable with, not so much a musician. BUT it WAS usable.... and it definitely could detect hardware! So I was impressed with the technology, but not enough to use it constantly.

Anyway, I get the impression that in the early days of Mint, it wasn't THAT big a deal to Mintify Ubuntu. After Unity, it seems like it got a lot harder.
But I think that back in the early days, Ubuntu was pointed in the right direction... right enough to inspire Clem to take it even further.

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:30 pm
by poorguy
When i first considered to use Linux it was ubuntu.
Most apps and support is what i found and learned from and became a Linux user.

Test drove several different ubuntu based Linux distros until i discovered LM 17.x and other Linux distros which satisfy my computer needs.

Still using ubuntu and LM 17.x and one other distro.
Enjoy them all and have learned so much.

I believe the open source world that Linux gives is the best choice to use for my computer use.

Just my own opinion which only matters to me.

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:16 am
by Fred Barclay
poorguy wrote: I believe the open source world that Linux gives is the best choice to use for my computer use.
+1. :)

I don't use or like Ubuntu, and probably never will (unless Unbutu MATE counts--that's a great distro!) but I have nothing personally against them. It just doesn't scratch my itch like Mint, Debian, Manjaro, Arch, Kali... Okay, you get the idea. :lol:
But I do value the choice that it gives the Linux community at large. I'd rather use Ubuntu than Windows anyday, and I think Ubuntu has been a starting point for many *nixers.

Re: Where would we be without Ubuntu

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:20 am
by capivara
Whatever you think of Ubuntu, apparently Canonical does something right:

"AMERICA'S SECOND biggest telecoms company has announced that it is switching to Ubuntu for its infrastructure.

AT&T, which has been around in its current form since 2005, has selected Canonical, the company behind the Ubuntu Linux operating system, "to be part of an effort to drive innovation in the network and cloud", beating rivals such as Microsoft Azure and IBM to the punch."


http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new ... t-contract

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